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Old 11-14-2013, 08:11 AM   #1066
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:18 AM   #1067
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Thanks for all the tips everyone -- I'm all kinds of excited to go. I'm well equipped, carry a SPOT, and not too proud to turn around and retreat. Well, usually.
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:19 AM   #1068
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Interesting thread, headed there in a week and a half

Always fun, hope to see current conditions. Probably working the east part of the park this trip..
Maybe shift to Panamint if time permits.. Bringing "Bessie" xr600's.


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Old 11-14-2013, 11:21 AM   #1069
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It is all about the rider

Lost is correct when he says it is all about the rider and his/her skill level.

Lighter bike with knobbies = easier
Heavier bike without knobies = more challenging

For my riding ability I can go anywhere in Death Valley on a DRZ400S.

I have had alot of fun in Death Valley on an R1200GS Adventure but could not go everywhere.

Pictures and video give you an idea of what conditions are like but often they make it look easier than it really is.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:11 PM   #1070
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Lost is correct when he says it is all about the rider and his/her skill level.

Lighter bike with knobbies = easier
Heavier bike without knobies = more challenging

For my riding ability I can go anywhere in Death Valley on a DRZ400S.

I have had alot of fun in Death Valley on an R1200GS Adventure but could not go everywhere.

Pictures and video give you an idea of what conditions are like but often they make it look easier than it really is.
Yep, understood. I've got a DRZ400S as well and could likely get anywhere on it. I do all the black diamonds at local OHV parks.
I'll check out videos, thanks!
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:37 PM   #1071
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Echo to Beatty is in pretty good shape.


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Old 11-15-2013, 11:38 AM   #1072
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Echo to Beatty is in pretty good shape.


Desert FLow from Steve Sumlin on Vimeo.
nice!

we did that and crossed a graded dirt road and our riding buddy ate shit so bad that he was knocked out for 3 minutes.

thats a fucking fun ride but you gotta be aware of what's ahead.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:43 AM   #1073
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nice!

we did that and crossed a graded dirt road and our riding buddy ate shit so bad that he was knocked out for 3 minutes.

thats a fucking fun ride but you gotta be aware of what's ahead.
That was scary shit for sure!
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Old 11-19-2013, 02:43 PM   #1074
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In Death Valley this weekend

I will be checking out Saline and Panamint Valley this weekend. Should be fun and the weather looks like it will be just about puurrrfect but a bit cool.....
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:50 PM   #1075
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That was scary shit for sure!
Not sure if he's been on the little bike since then.

Second time in two years I've been with someone knocked out cold. It's scarier....
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:27 PM   #1076
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So here's the scoop on Saline -- I just got back.

South Pass sucks ass.The first part between 190 and the turnoff for Hunter Mountain was fine and lulled me into a false sense of security. From there to the Lippincott turnoff had its challenges. It wasn't awful but keeps you on your toes. Then the valley floor is mile after mile of deep baby powder silt constantly washing out your front wheel or sinking your back. I stepped off a few times. It wasn't dangerous, but was a huge amount of work to keep the bike upright and it was exhausting. I was pretty heavily loaded and I'm not super skilled/experienced on that type of terrain so YMMV. A lighter dual sport bike might roost right through but for me it was a 1st gear affair.

The road to the springs was sandy but pretty cruiser. Lots of wash out whoop-de-doos that I actually kinda enjoyed.

When it came time to head out, I figured why not take North Pass. Nobody at the springs had anything nice to say about it but they were all in trucks. Well, it's infinitely better than South Pass. The first 10 miles starting from the turnoff for the springs is good road with a significant challenge thrown in once a mile or so -- 50 yards of softballs, a washout to step down into and up out of, a short but steep climb, or a trap of deep pea gravel -- then fine road again. It was actually thoroughly enjoyable. After those 10 miles, the road is so freshly graded that you could drive a sports car on it with no worries, and it stays that way all the way to pavement.







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Old 11-20-2013, 04:26 PM   #1077
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Reenmachine:

Good feedback and intel on the current conditions. Will be on those roads, lightly loaded on a KTM 500EXC this weekend. Looks like fun.

How deep was the silt? Up to your axles?

The area may have gotten some snow on the passes with the most recent storms from last night and today. I'll know for sure this Saturday and Sunday.
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:40 PM   #1078
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Reenmachine:

Good feedback and intel on the current conditions. Will be on those roads, lightly loaded on a KTM 500EXC this weekend. Looks like fun.

How deep was the silt? Up to your axles?

The area may have gotten some snow on the passes with the most recent storms from last night and today. I'll know for sure this Saturday and Sunday.
You'll be on the perfect machine for the rough bits and will probably have a much better go of the south pass than I did.

I never actually got all the way stuck in the silt so it couldn't have been all that deep, but there were times when I felt that if I stopped I'd be sunk for sure. It just made everything loosey-goosey, and I'm not good in that stuff in the first place. I'm curious to hear what your experience is.

It definitely felt like the winter weather was rolling in when I was on the way out. Left the springs sweating with shorts and t-shirt under my gear and had several layers on by the last photo.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:24 PM   #1079
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Tres Amigos

The Tres Amigos ride again this weekend on these:


We have learned to pack light over the years.......and we also stay in motels..... We have big, wide seats 'cause we're a group of old farts hav'in fun......'stead of retir'in and be'in "couch potato slobs."

52 year old, 62 year old and a 67 year old rider. After all these years, we still can't get enough riding.

We'll let the "young bucks" play on the groomed tracks while we head for the high country, rock gardens, sand washes and washboard. What could be better than that.

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Old 11-20-2013, 09:41 PM   #1080
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Thanks for all the intel on this thread fellas, I'm off on a big loop here

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=934968

My last day will depend on the Lone Pine/Big Pine/Saline/Warm Springs/Steele Pass/Eureka Dunes/Hwy 168/ Hawthorne, NV route. Any input?
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