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Old 08-20-2013, 03:23 PM   #31
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Broken top ring, worn cylinder, head gasket was leaking, cases are worn at the base of the cylinder, valve guides worn, con rod bush is done....

I will try to take some pics later.
strange...
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:28 PM   #32
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My not so happy cylinder



Gray area on the left = leaking. Shiny area on the right = no leaky



Broken ring



Con rod bush. If it was a field bike that I didn't care about I would roll with it, but this is my main bike after sending the FJR down the road.



Haven't checked the specs on the cylinder yet



Top ring



Burn much?



And the cases. Goop it up and it might last awhile. Not my style though.

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Old 08-20-2013, 11:02 PM   #33
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i have a low end, with out outers(18,000 mi). cracked cases but patched with metal type epoxy and does not leak with a kickstand re-locator.
pm me if you want to work a deal.
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:34 AM   #34
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I think I'll drop in a 990SM engine, there's 2 on fleabay right now. Thanks for the offer though!
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:13 AM   #35
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Wow. Lotta damage for 45k miles.

At 40k I pulled mine apart to remedy a trans issue (popping out of 4th gear) and found about 5mm broken off the end of the front cylinder's compression ring. Chunk was still in the ring groove.

I was going to mention that the bore is Nikasil- not likely to change a whole lot. At 100K+ (broken shift drum) I was still seeing cross-hatching and a perfectly round bore. I'm still running the stock pistons, with new rings.

Comparing the piston top to others that doesn't look so bad. Air-cooled motors usually have a much more dramatic layer of carbon. I would say it's about what I've seen on mine the last time I pulled it apart.

Hard to see what's going on with the cases in the pic. Was it actually leaking there?
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:16 AM   #36
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The case has a valley eroded into it, probably from the cylinder/head not being torqued to spec. I'll try to take a better pic.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:59 AM   #37
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Laugh

Pulled the trigger on a used engine. I should have it tomorrow (a friend is picking it up) but might not have time to install it for a week. MUST the ignition trigger be swapped? I don't have a socket that big!

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Old 08-21-2013, 01:01 PM   #38
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Two solutions: I can send you one, when you're done send it back. Or, Tractor Supply sells a Chinese socket, 1 13/16 IIRC that fits like a 13mm-1/2" :)
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Old 08-21-2013, 01:12 PM   #39
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If that is a 990 FI motor out of a Duke and you are putting it in a 950 then yes the Timing wheel HAS to be changed.
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:03 PM   #40
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Motomedic, Thanks for the offer. The biggest thing i have is 1 1/2. Sears has it, I'll go by and grab it.
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Brents, thanks for the info.
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Old 08-22-2013, 02:56 PM   #42
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Old lump out, new lump should be here soon.

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Old 08-22-2013, 04:27 PM   #43
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I bought this to get a 14mm allen socket: http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=914074_0_0_
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Old 08-23-2013, 04:38 AM   #44
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Pulled the trigger on a used engine. I should have it tomorrow (a friend is picking it up) but might not have time to install it for a week. MUST the ignition trigger be swapped? I don't have a socket that big!

I am not sure you are going to like the gearing in the duke engine.

The duke has a close ratio gearbox in it. Compared to your adventure engine, 1st is closer to second and 5th is very close to 5th.

It is an extra days work and some gaskets, but you could harvest your 950's gear box and transplant into the Dukes. This will save you from having to take the engine out again after you find you don't like the gearing.
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:51 AM   #45
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I am not sure you are going to like the gearing in the duke engine.

The duke has a close ratio gearbox in it. Compared to your adventure engine, 1st is closer to second and 5th is very close to 5th.

It is an extra days work and some gaskets, but you could harvest your 950's gear box and transplant into the Dukes. This will save you from having to take the engine out again after you find you don't like the gearing.

I know it's a compromise right now, something I may need to revisit in the future. Goal for today is to get the bike back up and running. Plus, if I pulled the engine apart and had running issues when it went back together I would have no recourse against the seller.
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