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View Results: What did the Osos do after Lica's hit in Hell's Gate?
Hit the 911 button on Lica's spot and waited for search and rescue 8 2.32%
Called Radek's cop buddy and got a TOY 4x4 extraction 17 4.93%
What's the problem? He rode out with one hand and no throttle - OSO!!! 75 21.74%
With the engineering flow chart, WD-40 and duct tape - trail repair, baby! 116 33.62%
Flagged down a tour jeep and put the bike in the back with some French tourists 36 10.43%
This is just a ploy to buy time and still act like you're working on the report, isn't it? 116 33.62%
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:43 AM   #616
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Thank you LW! Wow even with the damper it was a handful. Oh and yes I can hear the audio on the sand vid.

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You're welcome, John!
Oh, yeah. Cat Canyon is more than just a little sand.
We've done a lot of sand on our rides, and this section is "special."
And it's harder than a beach or dunes because you don't have the room to maneuver.
Give it a shot next time you do the TAT!







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Had to nominate this one for front page.


The laughter while making sand your favorite is priceless.
Hi Ladybug!
Oh, thanks for the nomination! I don't think I've ever looked at that thread.
Luckily, there's almost always lots of laughing in our videos.
It's my favorite part (real favorite, not "make ___ your favorite")







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Hey Kelly,

Now that you have some riding days with the new luggage setup can you tell us how you like it

From looking at it my guess is you have the same amount of stuff just a smaller bag in top and more stuff on the side bags to help get the weight lower.

This makes the bike a bit wider but does the bike handle better ?

Thx
Hi Paul!

OK, I found some pics.

2012 - Wolfman Expedition Bags (19 liters) and Wolfman Duffel



That still wasn't enough room.
We had our tent in a blue dry bag (on top of one of the side bags),
and camping food was in a 2nd dry bag on top of the duffel.

Very Beverly Hillbillies.
And, while camping, we had a 10 liter dromedary bag (water) on top of the other side bag.

It was a lot!











2013 - Wolfman Rocky Mountain bags and same duffel.
The Rocky Mtn bags hold 32 liters, almost 2x as much as the Expedition bags.




The tent fit into one of the side bags, as did the food and an extra tube.
I think the 10 liter dromedary (empty) and a nalgene bottle were also on that side.
The other side bag held clothes (that used to be in the top duffel), 2 camping pads, first aid kit and toiletries.

So the duffel only had 2 sleeping bags (down), matt's mid layer jacket, tent poles,
shoes (crappy flip flops), and 2 tubes.



I always hated having the big duffel behind me, it's almost as bad as a top case.
Hard to get on and off the bike, and I don't like being boxed in.
The smaller duffel was nice, especially with having a camelbak.





It looks like we have a lot of stuff, but we actually pack pretty light.
For clothing:
(Including what we are wearing)
3 shirts
3 pr socks
3 pr underwear
1 mid layer top (matt's jacket and my new grandma sweater)
1 pr pants (convertible pants for matt, light yoga pants for me)
1 pr crappy flip flops


That's it. I weigh everything.
My yoga pants weigh 6.3 oz, my flip flops weigh 5 oz.
I don't know if we could go much lighter, except for the tent.


Our tent is bomber, it's awesome - but it weighs 9 pounds.
We might try and go with an ultralight set up,
but it just won't be as good in the rain and wind.



So, the Rocky Mtn bags were pretty good for ease of packing.
It was nice not having all the other crap strapped on.
Matt said the weight felt better down low, and I liked not having a huge duffel behind me.
The RM bags are wider, but they were okay.
They only got swiped by rocks or bushes a couple of times.
Not great for single track, haha.


Schofield




The only time the bags really sucked was when Matt had to be next to the bike.
Like when we were going up Schofield Pass.
Matt said that he could barely push the bike 1 step before the bags were hitting his legs.
They are just so wide and they stick out so far, they are tough to work with.
Also, in deep sand, they were almost as bad as Gobis.


Other than that, they worked pretty well.
Matt did like having the weight down lower and said it made a big difference.



Our favorite set up is the Expedition bags and no duffel at all.
Like on the Baja-Wan Thousand.
That was perfect.
But, it only works for moteling.
Camping gear for 2 people, as you know, takes up a lot of space.
There's really no way around it.


Well, unless you just use a tarp and sleeping bag.
But, I'm kind of wussy about that.
You remember how well that worked out in St. George!





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Old 10-05-2013, 05:19 PM   #617
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o so goooood

thanks kel for keeping us entertained as well as informed.

i want to do some of the routes you did, moab for instance. seeing your pics, i made a decision that i will take a smaller bike @ 240# instead of the 640 which i rode last year.
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:26 PM   #618
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meh. that cat canyon looks like it'd be a piece of cake ....

on a rokon maybe


and since i don't have a rokon, the only way i'd ever see cat canyon is by reading this great report. i'm in awe of y'all for taking on such a challenge on purpose.
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Old 10-05-2013, 09:27 PM   #619
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Right about there I was feeling pretty good, doing about 70 mph, before I could get out of this frame I was under the bike on the left side of the road.



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Old 10-06-2013, 12:21 AM   #620
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one nasty looking get-off

Nice job staying on the bike and maintaining a straight line during that scary decel from 70mph to 0mph with a final flop over on the left side when you could no longer control the bike, submitting to the unpredictable path in the sand and the unrelenting gravity. Hope you avoided serious injury as the pic paints a scary picture of what could have been a serious accident.
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Old 10-06-2013, 01:43 AM   #621
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Thanks for your detailed write-up on the packing Kelly... We are always trying to improve our packing and you guys have it down pretty good.
(we carry about the same stuff(

We think are going to add the smaller bag on top for our next trip and have Jill use a Camel Bak. I was thirsty often on our way out west trip and wished I had it..

We use 2 dry bags on top and the Giant Loop Siskiyou Panniers with the Tent on top of one and the sleeping bags on top of the other... its a pain though because getting stuff out of the panniers the tent/sleeping bags is in the way.. and the 2 dry bags puts the weight really high..
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:14 AM   #622
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thanks kel for keeping us entertained as well as informed.

i want to do some of the routes you did, moab for instance. seeing your pics, i made a decision that i will take a smaller bike @ 240# instead of the 640 which i rode last year.
Hi Joel!
Oh, there's so much to see in Moab. We missed all kinds of good stuff.
Next time we would spend a couple more days there.
You're going to have a great time!!





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meh. that cat canyon looks like it'd be a piece of cake ....

on a rokon maybe


and since i don't have a rokon, the only way i'd ever see cat canyon is by reading this great report. i'm in awe of y'all for taking on such a challenge on purpose.
Yeah, those tires would have helped!
Glad you enjoyed cat canyon!
We really wanted the Osos to get to ride it, even though it meant paying the price later down the road...





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Right about there I was feeling pretty good, doing about 70 mph, before I could get out of this frame I was under the bike on the left side of the road.



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Nice job staying on the bike and maintaining a straight line during that scary decel from 70mph to 0mph with a final flop over on the left side when you could no longer control the bike, submitting to the unpredictable path in the sand and the unrelenting gravity. Hope you avoided serious injury as the pic paints a scary picture of what could have been a serious accident.
Haha, thanks for the pic, Rob!
I know you love CC, too


No kidding, hardroadking - CC is pretty remote.
Getting hurt, by yourself - it would take a while to get help.




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Thanks for your detailed write-up on the packing Kelly... We are always trying to improve our packing and you guys have it down pretty good.
(we carry about the same stuff(

We think are going to add the smaller bag on top for our next trip and have Jill use a Camel Bak. I was thirsty often on our way out west trip and wished I had it..

We use 2 dry bags on top and the Giant Loop Siskiyou Panniers with the Tent on top of one and the sleeping bags on top of the other... its a pain though because getting stuff out of the panniers the tent/sleeping bags is in the way.. and the 2 dry bags puts the weight really high..
our ever evolving setup
Hi Paul,
Wow, I think you have more than us, actually.
Don't you carry 2 chairs??


Those GL panniers are 35 liter, larger than the Rocky Mtn bags.
Can you get your tent in one of the panniers?
I would really want the sleeping bags to have more protection, too.
What about crashing?
Maybe put them in the duffel if you use one later.


Like you said, it's constantly evolving.
Carrying camping gear is the biggest problem with 2up.
Good luck and keep testing that stuff!


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Old 10-06-2013, 06:11 AM   #623
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Hello Wans.

I just got back from a cold, and snowy ride as I tried to do one last tour of Yellowstone. But the park was closed due to the Government shutdown.

But now I'm caught up with your Ride Report again.

Great riding in the Cat Canyon sand.
I'm amazed how Matt just picks that 990 up like it's a trail bike.

No - Mr. Purr does not have a shark costume.
But he's sitting on my shoulders as we have coffee and read the Ride Report.

Keep up the good work.
I'm getting motivated to start my COBDR report.

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Old 10-06-2013, 12:18 PM   #624
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I blame you and Matt, Kelly. I'm going to look at an '06 950A later today...
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:16 PM   #625
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Caught up. Little girl looks hammered but only Dad was drinking, I swear. Hilarious that she made all the right noises and pointed when things got rough. Little guy said "Man that sand would be hard on those big bikes! I don't think my bike would even make it through there!" (He rides a 36V Oset Trials bike .)

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Caught up. Little girl looks hammered but only Dad was drinking, I swear. Hilarious that she made all the right noises and pointed when things got rough. Little guy said "Man that sand would be hard on those big bikes! I don't think my bike would even make it through there!"
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:39 PM   #627
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Hello Wans.

I just got back from a cold, and snowy ride as I tried to do one last tour of Yellowstone. But the park was closed due to the Government shutdown.

But now I'm caught up with your Ride Report again.

Great riding in the Cat Canyon sand.
I'm amazed how Matt just picks that 990 up like it's a trail bike.

No - Mr. Purr does not have a shark costume.
But he's sitting on my shoulders as we have coffee and read the Ride Report.

Keep up the good work.
I'm getting motivated to start my COBDR report.

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Hi Q!
Oh, too bad about Jellystone!
I've always wanted to see it in the snow.
Would have really liked to see your pics. Try again later, okay?


The RRs have started - I guess you and Mr. Purr are starting to settle in for the cold season.

You keep up the good work, too - I hope you'll get your Day 3 up with no more issues...








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I blame you and Matt, Kelly. I'm going to look at an '06 950A later today...
Woooo!



Well? How did it go??







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Caught up. Little girl looks hammered but only Dad was drinking, I swear. Hilarious that she made all the right noises and pointed when things got rough. Little guy said "Man that sand would be hard on those big bikes! I don't think my bike would even make it through there!" (He rides a 36V Oset Trials bike .)

Hi Justin and adorable family!!!
You're raising some cute little inmates there.
Tell them thanks for the encouragement!
How do they like mud??

Thanks for taking the time to check in - I know you are insanely busy.
Hope things are going well with the brewing!
Yay!

I'm assuming that's NOT a warm PBR that you're enjoying in the photo...





That reminds me -
hey, there was a post a while back with a photo of Moose Drool...
What happened? where did you go?

Maybe someone was PUI?
Anyway, I thought it was funny but it disappeared before I could comment.
Sorry!




Mud stuff, coming up...

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Old 10-06-2013, 09:34 PM   #628
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So, we spoke to Bartek the other night...
He said that he and Radek were first to arrive in Cat Canyon.
As we suspected, the rain had packed the sand nicely.
Bartek said it was perfectly smooth and there wasn't a single track anywhere.
Pristine.



He rode on the left side, Radek rode on the right side...
and they had an amazing ride through the wash on perfect, beautiful sand.
No crashing at all.
Lucky Bastards!!!





Scott went next, he probably did all right if he took the middle.
Lica and Osito were following him.
The wash was pretty torn up by that time - both crashed in the same place Matt did.



And then in the video, you saw how it was for Matt.
Sloppy 5ths (or something like that)




So, if you want a good ride in CC - wait for the rain, and go first!


Osoooooooo!









The next section of the trail has turn after turn of thick, sandy gravel.
In dry conditions, it’s really hard for us to ride.
We just sink in the loose, soft, stuff.
But, this time - it was damp and very rideable.
Niiiice...










The guys had fun racing around.







Osooooo!














Matt and I were laughing, looking at all the tracks...
the Osos were having a blast, roosting around.




















We started to see some standing water and mud...







When we saw it pouring earlier today,
Matt and I knew that it was a really bad idea to go into Cat Canyon.
Yes, the sand would be fine (even great!) after the rain...

But the rest of the trail between CC and Salina would probably be muddy.
Really muddy.
Nasty, sticky Utah mud.






Remember this sign?





Yeah...

It was only a matter of time...





The guys started to notice it here...they slowed down.










We told them that things could be getting bad.
Be careful.





They were still enjoying themselves, though.
Lica’s pics...





















Radek took the lead.














Here comes another ubiquitous TAT photo - the giant bunny poops.






They’re some kind of lava rocks.







Where else have we heard about the bunny poop rocks?

Oh yeah...

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It's good to see those sections of the TAT again.
Good luck in cat canyon, and I hope the rain does not flood out the wash after the "giant bunny turd" section.
I spent a night camped there because of that happening.

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Old 10-06-2013, 10:04 PM   #629
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Nice job staying on the bike and maintaining a straight line during that scary decel from 70mph to 0mph with a final flop over on the left side when you could no longer control the bike, submitting to the unpredictable path in the sand and the unrelenting gravity. Hope you avoided serious injury as the pic paints a scary picture of what could have been a serious accident.

Yeah, you can see my front tire track in the left rut...my trouble was the back was whipping around on me. I had been riding with one hand, had a hurt shoulder from a lightning strike. I really got away with one there, augered in at about 30 mph or so.. lots of thorns.

Matt would say I needed a steering damper, then I would say that it didn't seem to help him much.





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Old 10-06-2013, 11:50 PM   #630
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. I had been riding with one hand, had a hurt shoulder from a lightning strike.
HUH ? You were struck by Lightning Rob ?
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