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Old 01-26-2015, 09:22 AM   #1
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Skidplate?

I originally asked this in the newbie thread, but I don't think anyone noticed:

What's the general opinion on skid/bash plates? Will I need one for gravel roads? Not really planning on a lot of serious off-road stuff...well, not yet anyway

The KTM one looks like good quality and reasonable value.

Advice/opinions most welcome.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:34 AM   #2
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Lots of choices and even more opinions. If u like it.....buy it.
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Old 01-26-2015, 11:29 AM   #3
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I originally asked this in the newbie thread, but I don't think anyone noticed:

What's the general opinion on skid/bash plates? Will I need one for gravel roads? Not really planning on a lot of serious off-road stuff...well, not yet anyway

The KTM one looks like good quality and reasonable value.

Advice/opinions most welcome.
I've been trying to research this as well. The general consensus I've seen is that the KTM plate is so-so and not designed as well as it could be. The Blackdog plate is a favorite, but there is an open question of whether or not the design can increase engine temperatures in hot climates. Lastly there is the AltRider plate, which is currently at the top of my list.
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Old 01-26-2015, 11:36 AM   #4
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I originally asked this in the newbie thread, but I don't think anyone noticed:

What's the general opinion on skid/bash plates? Will I need one for gravel roads? Not really planning on a lot of serious off-road stuff...well, not yet anyway

The KTM one looks like good quality and reasonable value.

Advice/opinions most welcome.
Readily available in Europe and good, IMO, are the AltRider one and the KTM.
Both excellent.
There's also Touratech and SW-Motech.
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Old 01-26-2015, 11:38 AM   #5
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I've been trying to research this as well. The general consensus I've seen is that the KTM plate is so-so and not designed as well as it could be. The Blackdog plate is a favorite, but there is an open question of whether or not the design can increase engine temperatures in hot climates. Lastly there is the AltRider plate, which is currently at the top of my list.
+1 for the AltRider plate!!
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:21 PM   #6
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I just got back from my first 1190 ride in Death Valley last night. rode 350 miles to DV, two days of jeep trails without all the luggage and back home. In the rocky sections the BDCW skid plate was doing an awesome job of deflecting rocks (you can really hear them when they hit hard). The oil temperature ranged from 175 to 200 depending on travel speed work load and the water temp never got into the top three bars, air temps ranged from 49 to 80 during the ride. The temperature seems to be a concern from some inmates so I was watching this very closely, its not a problem. I would highly recommend their skid plate, it fits the bike well and protects!
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:58 AM   #7
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Cheers for the advice lads.

Have just ordered the KTM one. Dealer gave me a good discount on it - £170 (US$256) instead of £215 ($324) . KTM are out of stock at the moment, but I'm not taking delivery of the bike until March, so should be sorted by then.

I can't wait!
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Old 01-27-2015, 06:34 AM   #8
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When you get the KTM one change the front 6 small countersunk bolts to normal 6mm s/s bolts with washers, change the 6 bottom countersunk bolts to s/s surface bolts with washers. I had enormous trouble trying to remove the countersunk bolts in order to change the oil. Ended up buggering the bottom bolt holes in the plate in an effort to drill them out. Seems the countersunk portion of the bolt is too wide a surface area (may also react with the alloy), creating what amounts to too much surface tension to allow easy bolt removal with the allen key size on the bolt. Ends up stripping the allen key. Thereafter lots of cursing as you will now be operating upside down with drill in hand.

The local KTM techs installed the plate despite me telling them not to. In the process they stripped the two 10mm bolt holes where the crash bars bolt on to the motor. More drilling ensued with taps and inserts to correct their crap. So beware.

Steep learning curve but the plate now works perfectly!
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Old 01-27-2015, 06:40 AM   #9
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When you get the KTM one change the front 6 small countersunk bolts to normal 6mm s/s bolts with washers, change the 6 bottom countersunk bolts to s/s surface bolts with washers. I had enormous trouble trying to remove the countersunk bolts in order to change the oil. Ended up buggering the bottom bolt holes in the plate in an effort to drill them out. Seems the countersunk portion of the bolt is too wide a surface area (may also react with the alloy), creating what amounts to too much surface tension to allow easy bolt removal with the allen key size on the bolt. Ends up stripping the allen key. Thereafter lots of cursing as you will now be operating upside down with drill in hand.

The local KTM techs installed the plate despite me telling them not to. In the process they stripped the two 10mm bolt holes where the crash bars bolt on to the motor. More drilling ensued with taps and inserts to correct their crap. So beware.

Steep learning curve but the plate now works perfectly!
Thanks for the tip
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Old 01-27-2015, 07:19 AM   #10
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I tried the touratech one and it was pretty decent but I ride in a lot of rocks so switched to the BDCW. You can have my touratech one for a reasonable offer if you are interested. I did enlarge one of the holes so oil changes can be done without removing it.

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Old 01-27-2015, 09:50 AM   #11
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I put the KTM bashplate on. Had to tap the threads for the bolt on rear right (mine is the 2014). Easy to take off for oil changes. I don't take it offroad tho, so mostly overkill.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:51 AM   #12
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When you get the KTM one change the front 6 small countersunk bolts to normal 6mm s/s bolts with washers, change the 6 bottom countersunk bolts to s/s surface bolts with washers. I had enormous trouble trying to remove the countersunk bolts in order to change the oil. Ended up buggering the bottom bolt holes in the plate in an effort to drill them out. Seems the countersunk portion of the bolt is too wide a surface area (may also react with the alloy), creating what amounts to too much surface tension to allow easy bolt removal with the allen key size on the bolt. Ends up stripping the allen key. Thereafter lots of cursing as you will now be operating upside down with drill in hand.

The local KTM techs installed the plate despite me telling them not to. In the process they stripped the two 10mm bolt holes where the crash bars bolt on to the motor. More drilling ensued with taps and inserts to correct their crap. So beware.

Steep learning curve but the plate now works perfectly!

Anti seize helps considerably....
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Old 01-27-2015, 02:46 PM   #13
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I tried the touratech one and it was pretty decent but I ride in a lot of rocks so switched to the BDCW. You can have my touratech one for a reasonable offer if you are interested. I did enlarge one of the holes so oil changes can be done without removing it.
Shame I'm on the other side of the world and postage would be a killer. Otherwise I'd be making you an offer.
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Old 01-27-2015, 03:36 PM   #14
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On the KTM plate.
Simply loosen up the other hardware first and all the small countersunk bolts come right out. But definitely use anti-seize when re-installing.
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Old 01-27-2015, 07:24 PM   #15
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I run a Touratech bash plate. Was a easy install and the build quality as we know with touratech is second to none.

Took the beast for a real rocky ride a few weeks ago and the B/B did its job. Very happy.

Good luck
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