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Old 08-22-2013, 08:18 PM   #1
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950 Puchase Decision - Mileage vs. Farkles

I'm currently looking to upgrade from my 2001 LC4 640 Enduro to an Adventure . I've been looking at two different 950s, both 2004 model year. One is low mileage for the age (27,000) but is basically bone stock. The other is much higher mileage (67,000), but has a lot of extras - gobi's, crash bars and bags, skid plate, Excel front wheel, dual fan kit, aftermarket pipe, rebuilt/upgraded suspension, etc. They are basically the same price. I'm torn and can convince myself either way as to which is the better choice. Any thoughts/advice? Is 67,000 miles high enough to cause concern? Both appear to be well maintained, but who knows for sure... Help me make the right choice!
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:29 PM   #2
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Some of it will also come down to the previous owner of the bike, in my experience. The farkled one may or may not have had warranty/TSB issues addressed - I would definitely check on that on both bikes. 67k is starting to get there, but isn't unduly high mileage. It's more likely to need pads/rotors/bearings/chain/sprockets etc, but if all the wear items seem good and the farkles are what you would do to it anyway, I wouldn't let the mileage dissuade you. The exception would be if the engine has a hard time building oil pressure, has a lot of cam chain rattle, smokes on startup or when running, that sort of thing.
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:46 PM   #3
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Thanks for the quick feedback. I'm still learning about these bikes - do you know what the warranty/TSB issues were on this model/year? Also, I'm not a real good judge of things like cam chain rattle, but the bike seems to run well. Maybe I need a professional inspection...
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:19 PM   #4
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Have you visited the H.O.W? http://www.ktm950.info/

See this page (toward the bottom) for model differences: http://www.ktm950.info/how/wotf/wotf.html
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:54 PM   #5
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27"000

My bike has 28k on it and it runs like a bat outta hell.
It won't run the same with 40k more on the odom. All those farkles mean it has hard miles.
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:37 PM   #6
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I Would Prefer Less Miles Than Extras.
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Old 08-23-2013, 05:12 PM   #7
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IN MY OPINION. There are a lot of bikes with almost no miles on them . Less than 5000. Personally, I wouldn't buy a 27,000 mile bike, and I especially wouldn't buy a 67,000 mile bike. The most I'd keep a bike for is about 60,000 miles , by then, they're feeling loose, steering head, swingarm bearings are getting worn, suspension needs a rebuild, etc., etc.. No telling about the engines, but I ride them hard. I'm not saying those aren't fine bikes, but to me, it would be worth it to find a very low mileage bike instead.

I say this after owning 40 something bikes. You know these guys on the BMWs that say.theirs is just broken in at 100k? They're lying. I sold a K100 at 75k, and it was getting pretty loose.
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Old 08-23-2013, 05:34 PM   #8
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I just had to go into my motor at 37,000 miles. While the motor was generally in really good shape, I did find that one of the front cam chain guides was well worn. These are made of plastic. I don't believe the wear that I found would be inconsistent with the wear on most LC8s taken apart at that mileage. So, to buy a buy with nearly twice that mileage . . . I dunno. I would buy that with the expectation that I would be throwing $2,000 into the motor pretty soon. I spent $1,500 on my top-end rebuild. $450 of that was replacing the crappy 950 cams that were shot, but that was also doing almost all of the work myself with some guidance from the local KTM shop. So the mileage would push me to buy the 27,000 mile bike.

FYI: I bought my bike at 24,000 miles. I didn't think about it at all. I considered 24,000 miles as nothing on this motor. I think mine could have done 60K to 80K miles without a rebuild, but I had some goofy issues that needed to be addressed at 37K. Such is life.
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:04 PM   #9
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I should add that some of it depends on your mechanical ability. I do all my own work, so tearing into a 950 isn't all that though for me. They're downright simple compared to the cars I'm used to. I bought mine with 48k on it, and while I'm working on going through it stem to stern, I still haven't found anything worn out. Eventually it will need timing components and the oil pressure relief spring done, but otherwise it runs like new. It seems like there is a lot of variation in the 950 world as far as wear-vs-mileage goes.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:55 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by corndog67 View Post
IN MY OPINION. There are a lot of bikes with almost no miles on them . Less than 5000. Personally, I wouldn't buy a 27,000 mile bike, and I especially wouldn't buy a 67,000 mile bike. The most I'd keep a bike for is about 60,000 miles , by then, they're feeling loose, steering head, swingarm bearings are getting worn, suspension needs a rebuild, etc., etc.. No telling about the engines, but I ride them hard. I'm not saying those aren't fine bikes, but to me, it would be worth it to find a very low mileage bike instead.

I say this after owning 40 something bikes. You know these guys on the BMWs that say.theirs is just broken in at 100k? They're lying. I sold a K100 at 75k, and it was getting pretty loose.
Totally agree. I found my 950 with 3,200 miles on it. 60k miles is a common number thrown around when asked "how long will a LC8 go with no major maintenance issues?"
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:03 PM   #11
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I think I'd go with the lower mileage bike too. I bought mine with about 24k on it and at the time was thinking that was a lot. Buy and add a few farkles to it, you really don't need to overdue it.
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