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Old 08-24-2013, 05:16 AM   #1
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1987 KTM 350 Enduro

I've come across a vintage katoom that is in fair shape locally. I've talked with the gentleman who owns it. Its was his uncles for 14 years and his for 3. It runs,shifts,and leaks nothing. has a new front tire/tube,new fork seals, new front brakes, Acerbis handguards, and a 5 gal aftermarket tank.

The bad , he said it needed new rear pads and the rear booster could use some work. The motor has never been rebuilt, good or bad i suppose.

So it sounds pretty good. I've been having some decent luck buying, fixing/cleaning up bikes and reselling them. However, i don't just do it for the profit motive, i really enjoy it and only like to do it with bikes that interest me.

I can pick up this bike for just shy of 500 and i was wondering what the consensus was on what it could be worth in better shape with some brightening, parts replaced, etc. ? I just dont want to lose money on the deal, im not afraid of breaking even.







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Old 08-24-2013, 05:35 AM   #2
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I've come across a vintage katoom that is in fair shape locally. I've talked with the gentleman who owns it. Its was his uncles for 14 years and his for 3. It runs,shifts,and leaks nothing. has a new front tire/tube,new fork seals, new front brakes, Acerbis handguards, and a 5 gal aftermarket tank.

The bad , he said it needed new rear pads and the rear booster could use some work. The motor has never been rebuilt, good or bad i suppose.

So it sounds pretty good. I've been having some decent luck buying, fixing/cleaning up bikes and reselling them. However, i don't just do it for the profit motive, i really enjoy it and only like to do it with bikes that interest me.

I can pick up this bike for just shy of 500 and i was wondering what the consensus was on what it could be worth in better shape with some brightening, parts replaced, etc. ? I just dont want to lose money on the deal, im not afraid of breaking even.







Nice bike, I have a 1989 KTM 500 GS (GS = Geländesport = Enduro), (a street legal version of the 2-stroke MX model which was made in low numbers). Anyway when the bike have a title for street use it's certainly worth to be build up.

But spare parts are - if available - not cheap and some parts extremly difficult to come by, like plastics, some engine parts, ...

The bike does look complete so I personal would - if have the money and too some left for parts and labour - get the bike, in future when these bike models get 30 years and older I strongly believe they will be very collectable and rise in worth when still original and street legal.

Look out to the ignition, the radiators (corrosion), water pump area (often heavily corroded inside), kickstart mechanism, plastics with no cracks. Pistons and crank rebuild kits are sometimes available ... otherwise a reproduction has to be made, same Problems can occur with gears and primary gears.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:55 AM   #3
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Would this bike have come with a title in '87?
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Old 08-24-2013, 07:05 AM   #4
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Nice bike, I have a 1989 KTM 500 GS (GS = Geländesport = Enduro), (a street legal version of the 2-stroke MX model which was made in low numbers). Anyway when the bike have a title for street use it's certainly worth to be build up.

But spare parts are - if available - not cheap and some parts extremly difficult to come by, like plastics, some engine parts, ...

The bike does look complete so I personal would - if have the money and too some left for parts and labour - get the bike, in future when these bike models get 30 years and older I strongly believe they will be very collectable and rise in worth when still original and street legal.

Look out to the ignition, the radiators (corrosion), water pump area (often heavily corroded inside), kickstart mechanism, plastics with no cracks. Pistons and crank rebuild kits are sometimes available ... otherwise a reproduction has to be made, same Problems can occur with gears and primary gears.
Thats what I was thinking,if you can hang on to it for about 30 years it will be vintage. As is its not old or new kind of in the nether regions. They sit on CL for ever and a day around here.
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Old 08-24-2013, 07:53 AM   #5
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i have an 81 and 84 250 (first water cooled), the 350 is an oddball, after 86 or so they had some reliability issues with other bikes, dunno much about the 350 i tyhink they made those 86-91 or so. i'm guessing motor parts may be difficult to source. there's a fiche here i bet http://www.ktm495.mxbikes.com/parts_manual.htm

$500 is about right. i buy them all day in that price range - be hard to sell for a profit though, none of them are worth much more than $1000 unless they are really clean... (aside from 495)... parts are not cheap. they do make decent riders though...

if you pass on it, i may be interested in it, i have a thing for the oddball stuff.. - let me know...
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:03 AM   #6
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i have an 81 and 84 250 (first water cooled), the 350 is an oddball, after 86 or so they had some reliability issues with other bikes, dunno much about the 350 i tyhink they made those 86-91 or so. i'm guessing motor parts may be difficult to source. there's a fiche here i bet http://www.ktm495.mxbikes.com/parts_manual.htm

$500 is about right. i buy them all day in that price range - be hard to sell for a profit though, none of them are worth much more than $1000 unless they are really clean... (aside from 495)... parts are not cheap. they do make decent riders though...

if you pass on it, i may be interested in it, i have a thing for the oddball stuff.. - let me know...
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:56 AM   #7
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i have an 81 and 84 250 (first water cooled), the 350 is an oddball, after 86 or so they had some reliability issues with other bikes, dunno much about the 350 i tyhink they made those 86-91 or so. i'm guessing motor parts may be difficult to source. there's a fiche here i bet http://www.ktm495.mxbikes.com/parts_manual.htm

$500 is about right. i buy them all day in that price range - be hard to sell for a profit though, none of them are worth much more than $1000 unless they are really clean... (aside from 495)... parts are not cheap. they do make decent riders though...

if you pass on it, i may be interested in it, i have a thing for the oddball stuff.. - let me know...
The 350 is a downsized 500cc bike and works pretty much the same as the 500cc model. The engine is likewise effective and a real power band beside it revs even faster up then the 500cc model.

Here a test: http://davestestsandarticles.weebly....6ktm350mxc.pdf

It was perfect for Enduro riding back then, while for example my 500cc was useable for Enduro first after heavy detuning by the factory and myself too. Anyway the 350cc is still a power monster and compared to nowadays Enduros und MX snappy to brutal in power delivery, you have to get used to them in my opinion.
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:05 AM   #8
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I had a 85/86 250 and let me tell you , parts were so hard to find for that bike. Id rather have some dental work done rather than mess with an old KTM again -
Having said that ,Im sure they now have thier parts supply system in line now, so, maybe it wont be as bad now as it was then,
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I had a 85/86 250 and let me tell you , parts were so hard to find for that bike. Id rather have some dental work done rather than mess with an old KTM again -
Having said that ,Im sure they now have thier parts supply system in line now, so, maybe it wont be as bad now as it was then,
yeah, it's not much better now. obviously, ktm direct has no parts pre-bankruptcy. André Horvaths has a lot of parts, but they are not cheap. the air cooled stuff is much easier...if you start with something that is very complete and running well, it's not so bad. if it's a basket case, forget it.
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Hmm. Well I suppose if I ran into any real trouble with not being able to find parts I could always part it out to recoup the money, right? I hate it when people tear down running and driving bikes to part them out, but I suppose it's very nice for the people who need the parts.
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I would buy it in a second. I raced enduros for years and a friend had one of those 350's, we all had KTM's as well and they were good for 2 years on a piston and ring.The graphics on the side panels aren't even worn off from your boot tops so it looks like it hasn't been ridden much, probably low hours and in good shape mechanically.
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:23 PM   #12
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I'm going to go check it out tomorrow. I may need a garage of projects for this winter, if I'm still going to be unemployed...
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:13 AM   #13
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I brought it home this morning. Sprayed it down with some degreaser and pressure washed some of the dirt and grime off of it before I threw it in the garage.



Apparently whoever looked at it before me bent the kickstand, so its leaning against the wall for now. After hosing it down, it appears to have a cracked airbox to carb boot. It started and ran, I rode it around the yard checking the gears and everything before I gave him the cash. It needs a good cleaning and some adjustments, but it appears to be in working order.

It has a brand new front tire and tube, new front brakes, and fork seals. The front and rear fender are aftermarket acerbis. The tank is a 5 gal. acerbis. The pipe looks to be an aftermarket Answer brand pipe. It also has a set of acerbis hand guards.

He also gave me another set of tires front and back, along with a sand paddle for the rear.

Wish me luck. :)
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Old 08-26-2013, 04:10 PM   #14
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Upon closer inspection, I think I bought an old hack job. :( Not that I feel ripped off or anything. I think a running/driving bike is usually worth 500 bucks. A non-hacked up bike would have been preferable. It looks like it came with a brand new un-oiled Twin Air filter, probably should do something about that. ;)









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Old 08-26-2013, 05:19 PM   #15
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that's about what they look like for $500 or so

it looks like it's all there...
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