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Old 08-25-2013, 10:47 PM   #1
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Twist of the Wrist for off roading?

I can't afford $1400 for a RawHyde school. I know I learned A LOT about riding on road from Twist of the Wrist 2. Is there something similar for off-road? I've seen some videos on youtube, but they seem to only teach how to go off road at 5mph. I want something a bit more performance oriented.
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Old 08-26-2013, 07:49 AM   #2
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Many local MX tracks often offer schools cheap. Even if racing is not your game controlling the bike is paramount to off road riding and that's what schools teach. If you've got $600 American Supercamp will teach you a great deal of how to control a motorcycle that's trying to get you off it's back.

Lacking that ride with someone faster and better than you all the while keeping in mind that they are. Thus keeping speed in check while learning. Many guys will teach you what they know. Just be sure that is what you want to gain.

And for some reading this is a great book. Geared towards the faster end of off road but it breaks it down into individual techniques and explains what,where and whys of it all. I've taken a couple of Semics' schools and learned a great deal. A bit cheaper than $1400 but a long drive from VA.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:02 AM   #3
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I have a couple of DVDs: "Dual Sport Riding Techniques" and "Advanced Dual Sport Riding Techniques" by MotoPeak, LLC

http://www.dualsportriding.com/

Very good.

Here's a couple magazine reviews on the DVDs
http://www.ridermagazine.com/gear/du...vd-review.htm/

http://www.cycleworld.com/2011/12/08...roduct-review/
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:55 AM   #4
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Do you want to race?

Most people just buy a little crappy bike and do it.
Learning that way is fun.
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Old 08-26-2013, 11:08 AM   #5
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Since your sig line says R1200GS, I'll make an assumption that is the bike you're talking about. I'd suggest the BMW performance Center in S.C. Cheaper than Rawhyde and closer too. Or Max BMW also has some classes, check out their website. Another thought is the MSF Dirtbike schools if there is one around you.

Don't worry about going slow, all the schools start that way. The fastest riders are also the best at slow riding. Going slow teaches you balance, body position, clutch and throttle control. Once you have those skills down you can add the momentum part.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:09 PM   #6
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I can't afford $1400 for a RawHyde school. I know I learned A LOT about riding on road from Twist of the Wrist 2. Is there something similar for off-road? I've seen some videos on youtube, but they seem to only teach how to go off road at 5mph. I want something a bit more performance oriented.
I did the Shane Watts Dirtwise class and we spent most a lot of time doing low speed drills. The skills needed to control your bike at 5 mph apply to riding at higher speeds.
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1200 BMW??

Nevermind.
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Old 08-26-2013, 06:06 PM   #8
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..........I've seen some videos on youtube, but they seem to only teach how to go off road at 5mph. I want something a bit more performance oriented.
Follow this series of vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxw8U...FCF0D3B73D5066

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Old 08-26-2013, 11:22 PM   #9
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1200 BMW??

Nevermind.
I mean, this is what I've been doing with no knowledge and the stock Tourance EXP tires (with a rear that is pretty much done)








Although, sometimes this happens too:


and this
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Old 08-27-2013, 05:30 AM   #10
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I have a couple of DVDs: "Dual Sport Riding Techniques" and "Advanced Dual Sport Riding Techniques" by MotoPeak, LLC
These are by ADV inmate "neduro" who raced in the Dakar rally last year.

Vendor's forum link:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246657

I'll repeat the link that Wilfman provided:
http://www.dualsportriding.com/
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Old 08-27-2013, 05:58 AM   #11
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Looking at those pictures, it looks like you need a video on how to negotiate terrain, or on selecting the right tool for the job.
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:17 AM   #12
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Maybe add a class on splinting broken bones and first aid also...
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:17 AM   #13
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Looking at those pictures, it looks like you need a video on how to negotiate terrain, or on selecting the right tool for the job.
LOL, yeah. I'm getting a lot better at realizing when something is going to tank the bike and stopping to look for another way (the pictures are not ordered by date). The last one where it's on its side was pure dehydration though - I didn't quite appreciate how quickly it happens off road.
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:27 AM   #14
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Think you need some better tires for one
That is a nice bike, but for mere mortals learning to ride off road something about 200+ pounds lighter would be a big help.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:18 AM   #15
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Although, sometimes this happens too:


and this
Combining those two a few too often on my Tiger is why I bought a 500EXC. Riding the little bike has made me better on the big one as well.
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