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Old 08-28-2013, 04:02 PM   #16
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Saw that but am looking for lower miles. FOund one in Houston with 3,500 miles and is the special edition edzberg model.

His bike is tight though. All the neccesary mods have been done.

I sent him a PM with some questions.
There is little if anything special about the Erzberg Edition SE all SE's were built the same year and then sold for 3 years.. I would do more homework before you buy anything. Also reviews from folks on ADVrider while useful are meaningless unless you have ridden both bikes yourself so you can filter the opinions as they apply to you.

For example, some think the SE makes a miserable touring bike due to the lack of wind protection, guys like Misery Goat and myself thought it was superior to the ADV model for touring because we could never solve the buffeting the ADV model created. Clearly we were in the minority but for us it worked great. Taking our opinions without your own first hand experience could lead to a poor decision which then leads to people complaining that the bike is at fault when really it's just not the right tool for their use.
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:10 PM   #17
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offroad? 950SE hands down, there should not even be a discussion about that.
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:39 PM   #18
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There is little if anything special about the Erzberg Edition SE all SE's were built the same year and then sold for 3 years..
Correct, Erzberg is 100% a standard SE with and Erzberg stickers and to the first owner bought from new they came with Akrapovics.

Essentially unless you get the acras you have nothing special, mitk125's bike is quite the machine and based on your 80/20 ratio that would be the bike to get IMO.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:30 PM   #19
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Correct, Erzberg is 100% a standard SE with and Erzberg stickers and to the first owner bought from new they came with Akrapovics as long as you didn't buy it in the U.S.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:27 PM   #20
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I lent my Ducati to my boss and commuted on my SE for a few weeks. The SE is busier on the highway and has no signals or mirrors so that was a bit of a challenge plus I couldn't seem to get the Neduro tank down the last 1/2 gallon. Otherwise I prefer the SE. More comfortable, better throttle response, sounds better, way more useful. I have gone to a short screen in low position on the Ducati as I prefer the wind in my face. I assume the 1190 is more like the Duc. Geat for cruising at triple digits but not sure where the other advantages lie. Twisties are more fun on the SE although I can hit 130+ on the Ducati where as the SE prefers sub 100.
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Old 08-29-2013, 02:02 AM   #21
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Is this a kind of joke? 1190 vs 950se .? Because for example you cant compare to ducati desmo with fireblade as well. They are both good but Ducati desmo is far more advance capable bike. So 1190r and 950 both good but 1190r 2 generation upgraded and very advance bike. You may like 950 but 1190 is far too good to even compare with 950 se
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Old 08-29-2013, 02:36 AM   #22
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Is this a kind of joke? 1190 vs 950se .? Because for example you cant compare to ducati desmo with fireblade as well. They are both good but Ducati desmo is far more advance capable bike. So 1190r and 950 both good but 1190r 2 generation upgraded and very advance bike. You may like 950 but 1190 is far too good to even compare with 950 se
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Old 08-29-2013, 02:43 AM   #23
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Is this a kind of joke? 1190 vs 950se .? Because for example you cant compare to ducati desmo with fireblade as well. They are both good but Ducati desmo is far more advance capable bike. So 1190r and 950 both good but 1190r 2 generation upgraded and very advance bike. You may like 950 but 1190 is far too good to even compare with 950 se
yep, the saga continues

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Old 08-29-2013, 03:11 AM   #24
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It gets the job done. I'm 6'2" and wind hits me on the shoulders with the 640 screen.

I've never ridden the new KTM but it looks nice with all that power. I'm sure the extra weight is a bear off road. Loaded it probably weighs close to what my 1150 pig does but with better suspension. In contrast the SE is more like the KLR everyone tries to unsuccessfully farkle their way into.




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Old 08-29-2013, 03:16 AM   #25
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yep, the saga continues

what is wrong in that ? Can't i say what i think ?i riden both bikes this is what i think ! 950se isnt a fantastic bike just because YOU like it :)
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Old 08-29-2013, 03:19 AM   #26
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Would love to hear what ADV has to say about these two bad boys.

The 950SE stopped being made in 2010 but when you can have a horsepower monster like that with only 450 lbs (full tank and fluids) and a beefier off road suspension then how can you not love it?

Then you have the new KTM1190R at 520 lbs (full tank and fluids) and everyone is saying it handles a lot lighter than the 990ADV's and is much more dirtbikeish.


So what do you Euro's think who already have the 1190R? Have any of you ridden the 950SE also?


My background is baja racing, district desert racing and I'm not a huge fan of tons of miles on pavement. I'd be trying to plan all my long trips with as much dirt as possible.


Obviously a used 950SE, with low mileage, at $10,000 sounds better than $18,000 for a 1190R but I'm more concerned about the comfort of the 950SE on long distance while still considering the better off road abilities.

The 950SE has raced the Baja 1000 but I'm thinking more along the lines of 1 or 2 month long trips covering 8-15,000 miles with a lot of dirt.


I'm rambling but that's probably because I'm so torn between these two...

Help!

P.S. Yes I have searched and read all the threads. Just want a specific 950SE vs 1190R thread.
sorry i didnt get the part of this . Did you test ride a 1190r ?
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Old 08-29-2013, 04:41 AM   #27
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sorry i didnt get the part of this . Did you test ride a 1190r ?
Exactly.

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Old 08-29-2013, 04:56 AM   #28
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So what do you Euro's think who already have the 1190R? Have any of you ridden the 950SE also?

My background is baja racing, district desert racing and I'm not a huge fan of tons of miles on pavement.

The 950SE has raced the Baja 1000 but I'm thinking more along the lines of 1 or 2 month long trips covering 8-15,000 miles with a lot of dirt.

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To the OP, I have some experience on both as well as on the 990S.
My thoughts about the 1190R were summarized by a ktm dealer friend of mine "the purists don't like it".
Now it doesn't mean that all purists don't. It's a darn good bike. It felt planted. The engine is great. But it feels very .... Plain. A bit of a gizmo. Now it's just my opinion but given your background, I think if I were you, I'd pick a 950SE hands down.

I won't debate the technical aspect of each bike.....

All these bikes will get you were you want to go on long trips but....
The 990S gives me a huge smile.
The 950SE gives me a stupid happy grin.
The 1190R gives me a "I'm happy I'm riding a bike" feeling.
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:15 AM   #29
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if he didnt test ride the ktm 1190 adventure r , i definetly recommend him to try :)
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Old 08-29-2013, 07:13 AM   #30
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News flash!!!!

The 950SE is a better dirt bike than the 1190, but a fine street bike.

The 1190 is a better street bike than the 950SE, but a fine off pavement bike.


A skilled rider on either will embarrass a lesser skilled rider on the other in the other's "domain".


Or is this just a new thread to bash the 1190 and let all the SE or big suspension studs say once again how manly they are?

If the latter, than carry on
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