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Old 10-03-2013, 08:09 PM   #1
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What do you think keeps the people you know who don't ride... from riding?

I had this poster of Mick Doohan on the garage wall when I was a kid. My dad got a VF700F when I was in 3rd grade, and gave it to me when I was 16. Motorcycles have been one of the great joys in my life.



But, I don't really understand what keeps more people from riding. I mean, in the rest of the world, motorcycles are ALL OVER THE PLACE.



Is it the low gas prices here? The long, boring roads? Some sort of secret General Motors plot from 50 years ago? Hells Angels and sportbikes giving motorcycles a bad name?

I've convinced three people to get motorcycle licenses (two girlfriends and one lady who stored my Honda Cub one winter--she went over her lease mileage and then got a license so she could ride the cub).

Millions of people take the subway in NYC every day, and I don't understand why they don't ride motorcycles or bicycles instead. It would be cheaper, faster, and more beautiful.

So, why do you suspect all those people who don't ride motorcycles... don't ride motorcycles?

edit: I'm talking about the United States
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:19 PM   #2
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I was going to put up a pic of why I suspect so many folks don't ride but when I did a Google search for "Motorcycle accident" I kinda
got sick and couldn't even find a non horrific decent pic


if it wasn't dangerous most folks who were able body would ride IMHO

and Many wives wouldn't keep their husbands from riding

I didn't give it up for twenty years because I wanted to

I had a family to provide for and if I got screwed up or died they would have been in dire straits

the other countries you refer to cars are unobtainable to most so a bike is not a matter of choices like it is here
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:20 PM   #3
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Two words.

goddanged cell phones.

ok, that was technically three.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:22 PM   #4
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One word.

FEAR.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:27 PM   #5
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I was going to put up a pic of why I suspect so many folks don't ride but when I did a Google search for "Motorcycle accident" I kinda
got sick and couldn't even find a non horrific decent pic


if it wasn't dangerous most folks who were able body would ride IMHO

and Many wives wouldn't keep their husbands from riding

I didn't give it up for twenty years because I wanted to

I had a family to provide for and if I got screwed up or died they would have been in dire straits

the other countries you refer to cars are unobtainable to most so a bike is not a matter of choices like it is here

Search for anything "accident" and I'm sure you'll find gory pictures, but I get your point.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:01 PM   #6
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There are a lot of people I know who don't ride... And many of them shouldn't!
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:18 PM   #7
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:32 PM   #8
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- rain/snow/ice
- transport capacity
- gear/comfort
- accident consequences
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:37 PM   #9
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- rain/snow/ice
- transport capacity
- gear/comfort
- accident consequences
Hmmm. I guess I know that stuff--at least for timid people. But I know lots of people who I am almost certain would love a bike and the freedom and thrills that come with it. I take people riding, and they all seem to love it. But then they never take the next step.

Maybe they wonder why I don't like TV shows and fancy restaurants.

I work on my own motorcycles, so I probably have an inaccurate view of running costs, but still, I feel like so many people would really benefit from being able to whizz around on a motorcycle. Do you guys get the same feeling?
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Old 10-03-2013, 11:53 PM   #10
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Meh, bunch of pussies.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:15 AM   #11
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My theory is that it is our ridiculous motorcycle laws. In most of the rest of the world filtering is lawful and expected. Here it is not and it draws the wrath of other motorists. I do it regardless. Saves lots of time, but I cannot believe how angry others get when I do it, even though I am on a high-performance machine just trying to get away from traffic for the sake of my own safety.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:27 AM   #12
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Fear. Most that don't are afraid that they might get run over by a car, for instance, a range rover driven by an Asian.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:59 AM   #13
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One word.

FEAR.
This. No doubt.

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And many of them shouldn't!
Well, that, too.

I was one of those people for a long time. Not afraid, but did want to learn to ride properly instead of just buying a bike and being an idiot. Not so much fear, but an overarching sense of doing it reasonably well. My family wasn't against it, per se, but my spouse is not a go-fast person, so he was not interested or curious to make it happen for me.

Then, I moved to Germany, and about a year in, realized, hey, I can go to driving school for this and actually learn properly with a good instructor and so on. It took about four weeks to get that set up and I was off to the races and haven't looked back. Got my unlimited license and bought a bike and now have over 30K kms in the seat after two years.

So many people ask me how I can ride with a family and responsibility and so on. I have insurance, lots of it. Riding is in its own way insurance for me - it lets me run away without running away. That is a kind of security for my family that most people can't begin to understand.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:05 AM   #14
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if your parents rode
you probably rode as well.
my father rode when he was young, my son rides.
so it comes down to culture.
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:18 AM   #15
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I was in London a few weeks ago. Gas is something like $7-8 per gallon and parking costs are equally outrageous. Tons of everyday working people of all classes on mopeds, bicycles, motorcycles, walking, running, and taking the bus to work.

I think in the US it's a mix....we have cheaper everything, harsher climate in areas, more space, higher speed limits, and I think its a cultural thing too. When you say "I ride" here, I suspect people immediately jump to some assumption of either hooligan, pirate, or village person. That seemed more true the further north I go. As I head south, it seems like more " every day joe type riders" exist.

I agree we could use more riders, if nothing else just to teach cagers to look out for bikes. In Bermuda, a car would pull up to an intersection, stop, and the driver would look right at you. None of the rolling, no-school-bus-coming-I'm-going crap.
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