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Dunno, dont care. Biker gear for me. 4 1.01%
Maybe a helmet, maybe not. I dress for the weather and my destination. 6 1.51%
I dress for the weather and my destination, and always a helmet when on the road. 28 7.05%
Usually a helmet, motorcycle jacket and gloves, but don't make a big deal about gear. 48 12.09%
Most of the gear, most of the time. 130 32.75%
ATGATT..... all the gear, always. 163 41.06%
ATGATT plus; all the recommended gear then some. 18 4.53%
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Old 06-08-2014, 03:11 PM   #46
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I'm so atwtgatttty I rode around in full leathers today in 104 damn degrees!!!

I should probably check the weather more often. Wondered why everyone was giving me crazy looks,hah

I live in the city and split lanes/filter every day. Risk assessment says that kind of riding needs full gear. Out on the open roads in the west it's whatever, but then city is a damn war zone, I want armor and leather.

Plus you feel like a fucking spartan riding around in full gear and a black visor. Hah. Gotta be All ninja like when riding like a fool.
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Old 06-08-2014, 03:23 PM   #47
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When I learned that most accidents happen within 10 miles of home, I moved!

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Old 06-08-2014, 03:59 PM   #48
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If more people crashed and scared themselves, the gear would be worn in hopes to never feel that misery again. That is, of course, if they're not complete idiots.

So if someone does crash and feel the pain that you have experienced yet chooses to remain unmotivated by fear resulting in their decision to continue to not be ATGATT then that person is a "complete idiot" ? No possible way that they could be highly intelligent yet come to different conclusion than you would/did?
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Old 06-08-2014, 04:04 PM   #49
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Cathy is my wife and occasional passenger. Through the intercom she will hear the bug hits to my helmet and faceshield. That has to feel great on an unprotected forehead.

That's one thing I don't get. I see people riding with no windshield and with an open face helmet or no helmet. I have seen someone get a tooth blown out by a Lubber grass hopper. I have had big bugs blast my face shield so hard that I couldn't believe the shield didn't crack. It's got to hurt on bare skin.
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Old 06-08-2014, 04:20 PM   #50
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That's one I don't get. I see people riding with no windshield and with an open face or no helmet. I have seen someone get a took blown out by a Lubber grass hopper. I have had big bugs blast my face shield to the so hard that I couldn't believe the shield didn't crack. It's got to hurt on bare skin.
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Old 06-08-2014, 04:52 PM   #51
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I just realized how terrible "talk to text" is. Time to edit!!
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:00 PM   #52
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XD4 and 1gen Klim Ralley jacket, need more $ for pants and boots, its hard to buy good gear on a budget and ride at the same time. BUT i will wear it all. I want to leave a good looking corpse.
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:10 PM   #53
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Three minor road incidents to my name,I still remember the road rash...jeans ain't 'gear'.....mentioned this to a couple of young blades at the test center a couple of days ago.....both on 600 crotch rockets, and both in shorts and wife beaters....helmet undone..of course....ohhhhhh the confidence of youth as I recall.
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:38 PM   #54
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Three minor road incidents to my name,I still remember the road rash...jeans ain't 'gear'.....mentioned this to a couple of young blades at the test center a couple of days ago.....both on 600 crotch rockets, and both in shorts and wife beaters....helmet undone..of course....ohhhhhh the confidence of youth as I recall.
They'll be fine. At that age they are still invulnerable.
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:19 PM   #55
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I just rode down to the car wash to rinse off all the Utah red dirt in shorts, T-shirt, running shoes, helmet, & gloves. It was 15 blocks and I never exceeded 20 mph. I would make the same trip on a bicycle going faster wearing less. Does that make me a bad person?

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Old 06-08-2014, 08:43 PM   #56
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I'm so atwtgatttty I rode around in full leathers today in 104 damn degrees!!!

I should probably check the weather more often. Wondered why everyone was giving me crazy looks,hah

I live in the city and split lanes/filter every day. Risk assessment says that kind of riding needs full gear. Out on the open roads in the west it's whatever, but then city is a damn war zone, I want armor and leather.

Plus you feel like a fucking spartan riding around in full gear and a black visor. Hah. Gotta be All ninja like when riding like a fool.
Wine country here. Drunks, tourists, addled old drivers, farm vehicles and tour buses...for me it's full gear all the time even on short rides where I live. I can get so hot in my black leather that I think I'm gonna melt. I don't care...sweating beats skin grafts any day.
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Old 06-08-2014, 10:03 PM   #57
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So if someone does crash and feel the pain that you have experienced yet chooses to remain unmotivated by fear resulting in their decision to continue to not be ATGATT then that person is a "complete idiot" ? No possible way that they could be highly intelligent yet come to different conclusion than you would/did?
There's so many possibilities! Why would anyone intelligent want to go through all that rehabilitation for a second time, or the first?

I remember ignoring a toothache, the pain would come and go. Then one day, the pain turned to agony. Eventually I had no choice but to go to the dentist and have the tooth pulled. One lesson I learned was to have it checked right away, and I won't have to experience that torment (hopefully) ever again.

If I had went through a second toothache, ignored it, experienced all that inconvenience for a second time, what does that make me? A complete idiot, because I failed to learn the first time around.

In my opinion, if a person gets hurt, heals, and doesn't use the tools available to prevent or at least minimize the carnage and it happens again.. complete idiot, indeed. Unless they don't feel pain like me, or get some strange thrill from rehabilitating their body, then my theory is just full of holes, and around we go.

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Old 06-08-2014, 10:06 PM   #58
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plus you feel like a fucking spartan riding around in full gear and a black visor.
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Old 06-08-2014, 10:09 PM   #59
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I just rode down to the car wash to rinse off all the Utah red dirt in shorts, T-shirt, running shoes, helmet, & gloves. It was 15 blocks and I never exceeded 20 mph. I would make the same trip on a bicycle going faster wearing less. Does that make me a bad person?

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Just out of interest....
How heavy's your bicycle? How hot is the exhaust on your bicycle? And how heavy's your motorbike? How hot is the exhaust?

I'm an ATGATT bloke now (didn't used to be) - even on short journeys. If it's really short, more often than not I'll walk rather than put on all the gear.

I always thought it was kinda weird that folks are happy to potter around town in flip-flips and board shorts but when they head out on the motorway they clad up. Most incidents happen at junctions (and where are there more junctions?) and within a area familiar to the rider (familiarity does breed contempt or, at least, relaxation). Yet more incidents happen when you're exposed to on-coming traffic with poor, or zero, escape routes - aka a town.

One of the safest places to be on the motorway or out in the country side. It's as if folks equate speed with danger, which, when you think about it, is pretty ridiculous.

The other ridiculous thing, IMO, is that some folks think ATGATT is for riding. It's not. It's for falling off.

When I was over in the US I was asked all the time why I was wearing so much gear....my reply would always be the same "Because when I have a crash, I want to get up again and carry on riding". I've never been asked that question over here.
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Old 06-09-2014, 05:52 AM   #60
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There's so many possibilities! Why would anyone intelligent want to go through all that rehabilitation for a second time, or the first?

I remember ignoring a toothache, the pain would come and go. Then one day, the pain turned to agony. Eventually I had no choice but to go to the dentist and have the tooth pulled. One lesson I learned was to have it checked right away, and I won't have to experience that torment (hopefully) ever again.

If I had went through a second toothache, ignored it, experienced all that inconvenience for a second time, what does that make me? A complete idiot, because I failed to learn the first time around.

In my opinion, if a person gets hurt, heals, and doesn't use the tools available to prevent or at least minimize the carnage and it happens again.. complete idiot, indeed. Unless they don't feel pain like me, or get some strange thrill from rehabilitating their body, then my theory is just full of holes, and around we go.

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just because pain controls you does not mean that it controls everyone. I would see some credibility in your argument if only morons chose to involve themselves in risky behavior. considering the fact that this is a motorcycle forum and not a forum dedicated to installing roll cages in cars while trying to promote mandatory helmet laws in said vehicles, I see very little if any validity in the notion that one's riding gear choices are directly correlated to a persons intelligence.
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