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Old 09-11-2013, 04:14 AM   #46
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It can't transmit through the metal of your pannier if that's what you have. If plastic then you are ok.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:21 AM   #47
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It can't transmit through the metal of your pannier if that's what you have. If plastic then you are ok.
It won't do it through carbon fiber either (epoxy is a plastics), because the CF will act as a faraday cage just as well as the metal panniers.
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:31 AM   #48
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After this last encounter with a suicidal kamikaze deer, I am definetley investing in a spot tracker. I mean, my cell phone worked, but if it had been broken it would have meant a long walk to help with a fractured collar bone, ribs, and scapula, plus I was disoriented from the crash. I hope I never have to use it. Plus I'm buying a damn Glock .40 cal and mounting it on my handlebars, so that if I see a deer I will willingly bust a cap in its ass before it has a chance to run out in front of me. Thoughts?
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:59 PM   #49
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Plus I'm buying a damn Glock .40 cal and mounting it on my handlebars, so that if I see a deer I will willingly bust a cap in its ass before it has a chance to run out in front of me. Thoughts?
You may want to work on an automatic tracking and firing system for the Glock, so you don't have to take the hands off the bars.

FLIR might also be helpful.
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Old 09-12-2013, 12:18 PM   #50
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I keep an expired ELT in my Pannier, if I come to an abrupt stop the Feds will come looking for me.


Not sure if you're serious or not, but in the event that it actually triggers it can take 2 hours before SAR teams have the information. If I recall correctly, it takes a pretty good jolt to make them go off. Not catastrophic, as most of my "finds" were just from hard landings. But in the event the bike slides down the pavement there may not be enough g load to set it off.


Side note: the 2 hour response time is significantly better than the old style that was common when I was still active in SAR. The old units sent no identifying information and took around 6 hours before a satellite went overhead... And there were so many accidental triggers that they often waited for a second satellite to confirm it.

Not the best source, but acceptable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distress_radiobeacon
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:15 PM   #51
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You may want to work on an automatic tracking and firing system for the Glock, so you don't have to take the hands off the bars.

FLIR might also be helpful.
Hmmm....
That, or figure out how to mount a frikkin laser beam. *points pinkie fingernail to corner of mouth*
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Old 09-14-2013, 06:16 AM   #52
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After this last encounter with a suicidal kamikaze deer, I am definetley investing in a spot tracker. I mean, my cell phone worked, but if it had been broken it would have meant a long walk to help with a fractured collar bone, ribs, and scapula, plus I was disoriented from the crash. I hope I never have to use it. Plus I'm buying a damn Glock .40 cal and mounting it on my handlebars, so that if I see a deer I will willingly bust a cap in its ass before it has a chance to run out in front of me. Thoughts?

Forward and aft facing .30 Cal Mini-gun. this should solve all sorts of problems. triggers on handlebars in reach of the grips.
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Old 09-16-2013, 08:48 AM   #53
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I read a couple times that it's not good to put anything like a phone in the jacket pocket over your heart because it could concentrate the impact in a crash, or something like that. Seems logical so I carry my phone in a lower pocket. Just sayin'.
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:12 AM   #54
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... and here's my luddite response.

Rode across the Sahara in the mid '70s - no such thing as a Spot, EPIRB, cell or SAT phone, or GPS - on a 2 stroke road bike back before we had specialised offroad machines... and I'd do it again at a moments notice. Comms in those days meant 6 weeks to get a letter home and another 6 weeks for a reply.

... kinda puts put the whole question of "where the fuck do I carry my phone" into perspective doesn't it.
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:43 AM   #55
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... and here's my luddite response.

Rode across the Sahara in the mid '70s - no such thing as a Spot, EPIRB, cell or SAT phone, or GPS - on a 2 stroke road bike back before we had specialised offroad machines... and I'd do it again at a moments notice. Comms in those days meant 6 weeks to get a letter home and another 6 weeks for a reply.

... kinda puts put the whole question of "where the fuck do I carry my phone" into perspective doesn't it.

The perspective is fine and all, but, if you rode across the Sahara and didn't have a flat would you leave the tubes and patches home next time?

Granted, "be prepared" can lead to carrying too much stuff, and the "too much" can be a significant burden for a motorcycle traveler. The question is what criteria is used to determine where to draw the line between

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Where most folks are riding these days the cell phone they already own and carry could be what makes the difference for them. It is small, light, and the usefulness far outweighs the burden. Cell service might not be so great in the Sahara, but it is available in many places more frequently visited by cyclists.

This wouldn't necessarily apply to the most faithful of followers of brother Ned Ludd.
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:18 AM   #56
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I always have it in a pocket. Better to have it on you with the slight possibility of it causing more harm than having it on the bike and not be able to get to it.
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:50 PM   #57
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I certainly don't know that having my cell in my jacket pocket is ever going to be the lifesaver, but today's area news makes me think I'll keep on putting it there after donning my helmet.

"Missing Gloucester man found days after motorcycle crash"
http://www.dailypress.com/news/break...,2034269.story
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Old 09-17-2013, 02:22 PM   #58
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Four years ago we lost a friend who went for a walk on a chilly spring evening. She was walking alone on a well marked, well known hiking trail by the Susquehanna river, in PA. She slipped down a small embankment, broke her hip, and was unable to get herself up and out for help. She passed away early in the morning from exposure. She was found 2 days later. Her cell phone was not in her person, but in her car. Very sad. Take your cell phone with you gents. Charge it before you leave, and keep it close by. For me, I was able to call for help while sitting on a rural road, all busted up from a deer strike. I can't honestly say how long it would have been before help arrived. The half hour waiting was painful enough. Not one vehicle passed me in that time. The GPS coordinates on the compass app helped me to guide the rescue squad in as well.

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Old 09-17-2013, 02:39 PM   #59
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Interesting thoughts in here. My cell phone usually lives in a mount on my bars because I use it as a GPS. I may start carrying it on my person when I'm not commuting on major roads in case of an unwitnessed crash.


I definitely carry my SPOT on my person every time I ride off-road. That's a given.
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