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Old 09-04-2013, 06:57 PM   #1
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990 now or wait for the 1190R

This question is for you Euro guys who have owned both a 990 and an 1190R. Should I pull the trigger now on a 990 or wait for the 1190R? Is the 1190R just as capable on the dirt but better on the street?

I live in Texas in the USA and have to slab a good 600-800 miles one way (sometimes 2up) to great offroad states like Utah and Colorado so looking for something that can do that well while at the same time be very dirt worthy. Ready to buy a big ADV and wondering if I should just go ahead and get the 990 or if the 1190R will be worth waiting another 6 months since a lot of my adventures will be enduring hours and hours of slab.

Please don't rant how the 1190 will never be what the 990 was unless you have owned both and can share real opinions and not just theories from looking at pictures and reading spec sheets.
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:20 PM   #2
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get the 990 now, and head south to ride the ET 500 with us Houston folk.

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This question is for you Euro guys who have owned both a 990 and an 1190R. Should I pull the trigger now on a 990 or wait for the 1190R? Is the 1190R just as capable on the dirt but better on the street?

I live in Texas in the USA and have to slab a good 600-800 miles one way (sometimes 2up) to great offroad states like Utah and Colorado so looking for something that can do that well while at the same time be very dirt worthy. Ready to buy a big ADV and wondering if I should just go ahead and get the 990 or if the 1190R will be worth waiting another 6 months since a lot of my adventures will be enduring hours and hours of slab.

Please don't rant how the 1190 will never be what the 990 was unless you have owned both and can share real opinions and not just theories from looking at pictures and reading spec sheets.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:00 PM   #3
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Wait for the 1190. You'll get to Utah quicker and more comfortably... and once there off-roading you won't owe much to the 990.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:52 PM   #4
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In similar place as you jtmajors. Have a few hundred KM of slab to get to the good trails, but even more to the point here is the price difference, a 2013 990 Adventure is about $5K cheaper than the 1190 R. I have owned the 950 before and loved it (still kick myself for selling it!) so is the 1190 R worth $5K more than the new 990?

I have a Tiger 800XC at the moment, so I suspect I will be stoked with either the KTMs as while the XC is a great bike, it is a bit gutless.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:52 PM   #5
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You'll be hard pressed to find people who have owned both so that's out the window. And even if you don't want people to rant about he how the 1190 will never be what the 990 was/is it's the truth: the 1190 will never be what the 990 was/is. They are two VERY different bikes! The 990 is definitely a far more off road oriented bike than the 1190. Look at it like this: the 990 is a big dirt bike that is fairly capable on the road. The 1190 is a big road bike that is fairly capable on the dirt.

Road riders are eating up the 1190 and dirt riders are hanging on to their 990's. It just comes down to what you are and what you ride. Period.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:26 PM   #6
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I find myself asking the same question...

Any confirmation for US pricing for the 1190's?
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:33 PM   #7
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I went with the 990

I was struggling with this decision too.
I wanted a more capable bike than my Harley so I started doing a lot of research. Initially dismissed the 990 because I knew the 1190 was coming out. But the more I read the more I kept liking the 990.

I finally decided to get a 990 2 weeks ago. For a lot of reasons: it was available, it is "simple", hardly any electronics, lot's of info available, I like all the extra stuff I got with my Baja Edition, it's a "known entity", and I always have the option of trading it in for a 1190. If I waited for the 1190 I'd probably never know what a 990 was like.

Second day I had it I took it off road for my first trail ride ever. It was great and I had never had so much fun on a motorcycle. Last week when I dumped it on a gravel road up in the mountains with only 200 miles on it, I just thought "well, glad that's over with". I commute everyday on it. What a great bike.

Sure, I'll ride the Demo 1190 when it shows up. But right now, I don't regret my purchase at all.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:39 PM   #8
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I finally decided to get a 990 2 weeks ago. For a lot of reasons: it was available, it is "simple", hardly any electronics, lot's of info available, I like all the extra stuff I got with my Baja Edition, it's a "known entity", and I always have the option of trading it in for a 1190. If I waited for the 1190 I'd probably never know what a 990 was like.
I think this is very true. There is something to be said about a bike without all of the electronics.

Although, the practical, older, wiser side of me is saying that I would kick myself if my next bike didn't include ABS for the street...it's just that the 2013 990 Baja is just so damn pretty.

Decisions decisions...
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:06 PM   #9
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I also was waiting for the new 1190, But i missed my 950S so much could not wait any longer and pulled the trigger on a 990R. I am very happy now
And of course i will also demo the 1190 when it comes,but it will have to wait a while while i enjoy this one.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:19 AM   #10
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Dont get me wrong but 990 r is more dirt focus then 990 that's what I know. 990 isn't better dirt bike then 1190 r . If you say 990 R I would say may be. But it's completely up to you . I don't think they will continue doing 990 in coming years.

They both great bikes as they are both KTM.!
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:08 AM   #11
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Dont get me wrong but 990 r is more dirt focus then 990 that's what I know. 990 isn't better dirt bike then 1190 r . If you say 990 R I would say may be. But it's completely up to you . I don't think they will continue doing 990 in coming years.

They both great bikes as they are both KTM.!
if you had read this sentence (first post of this thread), you wouldn't even consider replying...

"Please don't rant how the 1190 will never be what the 990 was unless you have owned both and can share real opinions and not just theories from looking at pictures and reading spec sheets."
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:17 AM   #12
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I like your reasoning! Hmm....

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I was struggling with this decision too.
I wanted a more capable bike than my Harley so I started doing a lot of research. Initially dismissed the 990 because I knew the 1190 was coming out. But the more I read the more I kept liking the 990.

I finally decided to get a 990 2 weeks ago. For a lot of reasons: it was available, it is "simple", hardly any electronics, lot's of info available, I like all the extra stuff I got with my Baja Edition, it's a "known entity", and I always have the option of trading it in for a 1190. If I waited for the 1190 I'd probably never know what a 990 was like.

Second day I had it I took it off road for my first trail ride ever. It was great and I had never had so much fun on a motorcycle. Last week when I dumped it on a gravel road up in the mountains with only 200 miles on it, I just thought "well, glad that's over with". I commute everyday on it. What a great bike.

Sure, I'll ride the Demo 1190 when it shows up. But right now, I don't regret my purchase at all.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:58 PM   #13
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I live in Texas in the USA and have to slab a good 600-800 miles one way (sometimes 2up) to great offroad states

i am a 990 fan, but sounds like you want a 1190.

another data point on the 990 vs 1190, is cost. current real 990 pricing will be 2/3rds 1190 pricing, seeing the 1190 will be a new bike there will not be a lot of discounted bikes.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:54 PM   #14
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How many miles can the 990 slab comfortably compared to the 1190?
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:27 PM   #15
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