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Old 09-05-2013, 06:00 PM   #16
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Thats More Up To Your Keester Than The bike.Bike.
I slabbed about 8 hrs on a wr250 and wanted to shoot myself in the face afterwards. Just wondering how much better the 990 would be and how comfortable it would be.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:28 PM   #17
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I slabbed about 8 hrs on a wr250 and wanted to shoot myself in the face afterwards. Just wondering how much better the 990 would be and how comfortable it would be.
This is just my opinion,,,

I'm looking for a dirt track of any sort even a gravel road, heading in the same general direction after about 150 miles of pavement to give my arse a break.

But, I am 55 years old and I do have the stock seat on my R.

My 990R is 100 times more comfortable than my 690R on the pavement. Don't know if this answers your question.

Unfortunately a short test ride at the dealership won't give you a good perspective on how great the 990 is,
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:31 PM   #18
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The 990 is great but the screen sucks a bag of dicks. Bike to bike they are going to be similar, however if the 1190 is much better in the wind you'll be far more refreshed. Also if you are comparing an 1190R to a 990 (non R version) then on paper I'm not sure where the impressions come from that the 990 is better off road. The 1190R has 10mm more travel than the standard 990 (although with lower ground clearance) and has a lower centre of gravity. So ...... You make up you're own mind. If you're talking about the 990R then that is another story. Q

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Old 09-05-2013, 06:48 PM   #19
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My $.02

If I were the OP, I would consider a slightly different approach. A 990 now as he suggests, or a 1190 in a couple years. I've never been a fan of first year model bikes, there are usually lot's of TSBs to deal with. Ducati, KTM and others relatively small bike manufacturers have all had their fare share of teething issues on first year models. Nothing against the brands, I love my Ducatis and KTMs!


But if it were me, I'd wait the 1190 out a year or two until most technical service bulletins (TSB) are taken care of at the factory. By comparison, I own two LC8s. My 2008 KTM ADV 990 had no TSB's since I purchased it new. My 2007 950 Super Enduro R had 4. None were show stoppers, but all required some work on my part.

That may or may not sway you, but it's worth considering.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:03 PM   #20
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990, because of Hidden Falls ADV park.
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:51 PM   #21
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The 990 is great but the screen sucks a bag of dicks.
Not just one dick but a bag of dicks. Wow must be bad!
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:59 PM   #22
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I slabbed about 8 hrs on a wr250 and wanted to shoot myself in the face afterwards. Just wondering how much better the 990 would be and how comfortable it would be.


I had a wr250r and I did a 300 miles slab day and I was so thankful that I was able to leave the bike with a new owner and fly home. The 990 is night and day difference.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:09 PM   #23
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I had the same concerns and questions. Then I asked "Do I want a first year production bike with the associated concerns?"

Nope.

Neither do I want the electronics and strangely I don't want the extra HP. The 118 or whatever HP the 990 Baja has is more than enough for me. Prior to coming to the Orange Kool Aid Camp I was purely a street guy. And I had enough seat time to realize that 140 factory quoted HP was enough for me. Even more than that in a bike I'll be taking off road? Not needed for me.

The 1190 will be a great bike, no doubt about it. But I do feel it will be a less "dirty" bike. And my taste prefers the looks of the 990 ....... to each their own.
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Old 09-08-2013, 06:43 AM   #24
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In the US are we getting a 2nd year bike since its a 2014 or are they just left over 2013 Euro bikes
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:00 AM   #25
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Not just one dick but a bag of dicks. Wow must be bad!

That's one of these expressions that I'll never fully understand. I get it on principle but the negative connotation associated with the act is something I don't get. Guys actually enjoy getting head no? And their partners (irrespectively of the gender) do too..... No? Maybe I'm missing the point....

Crap, it's a motorcycle forum.... I'll stop there.

The windscreen isn't so bad but it's based on your height and the kind of helmet you wear. I have no issue with any of my helmets. No buffeting. Ever.

I rode the 1190 and it's a great bike but I'll keep the 990. Thank you very much.
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:10 AM   #26
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Discounted prices.... OTD.... Apparently, they have too many

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Old 09-08-2013, 07:11 AM   #27
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13k for a new 1190?
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:13 AM   #28
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In the US are we getting a 2nd year bike since its a 2014 or are they just left over 2013 Euro bikes
You get our refurbished ones
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:15 AM   #29
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13k for a new 1190?
Yep they have three of them. Two standards and an R. All discounted at the same rate. Second showroom I see with the same prices.
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Old 09-08-2013, 12:34 PM   #30
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I've had the 990 for 6 years now, and I finally test rode the 1190 R. It is entirely different bike to the 990, if you rode it "blindfolded", you wouldn't know it was a KTM. I didn't ride it on dirt, on asphalt it was super smooth, the power this thing puts out, is nothing short of phenomenal. I was mostly on fourth gear, speed limit was 60 kmh, motor didn't complain at all. The surprise came when I gave the throttle a healthy twist, in a fraction the Speedo was showing 200. The uncanny thing is, you really don't "feel" the speed, I am sure I would lose my license in the first week. It was every bit as good as they say, if I had the money, I would buy it. If I were you, I'd wait, it is that good. When you hit the starter button, the sound it makes,, you'll know this things got some serious go in it.
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