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Old 09-21-2013, 02:30 AM   #1
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Position of rimlock

Got a cush rear wheel that hasnt got a drilling for rimlock,it has possibly run bib inserts,is the recommended position for rimlock 4 spokes distance from valve stem spud? like most bikes?
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Old 09-21-2013, 02:48 AM   #2
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Depends on who you ask........Some say opposite the valve stem.

Just had a look at my DRZ & XR6 both factory rim locks

DRZ, Front opposite the valve, rear 4 spokes away.
XR6, both front & read opposite the valve.

I don't think it really matters.
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Old 09-21-2013, 03:03 AM   #3
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You will also notice every third spoke has a wider gap between the nipples
My rim locks are close to the valve from factory while your drilling you may as well balance , I stealth balance under the rim tape then if you balance your tyres
You won't have 3kg of lead weights lookin ugly but I don't both balancing the tyres , just the rim lock and valve
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See how close to balanced you can get it, that'll minimise the need for weights and we all know less unsprung weight is good.

Ps I find rimlock opposite valve makes for easier changes / less pinched tubes
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I've heard it is easier to fit tyres with the 4 spoke method - so that's where I drilled mine. Haven't fitted tyres to rims drilled opposite.

The argument for opposite is based on the valve stem and rim lock being heavy points, to help with balancing. But a rim lock can weight over 100grams, compared to bugger all for the valve stem.

Some say fit two rim locks opposite each other, but I reckon tyre fitting would suck then.
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Old 09-21-2013, 03:16 AM   #6
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You will also notice every third spoke has a wider gap between the nipples
My rim locks are close to the valve from factory while your drilling you may as well balance , I stealth balance under the rim tape then if you balance your tyres
You won't have 3kg of lead weights lookin ugly but I don't both balancing the tyres , just the rim lock and valve
That's really cool and interesting. What sort of weights do you use? Any concerns with them coming off with centrifugal force, or does the tube hold them in place?
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I've heard it is easier to fit tyres with the 4 spoke method - so that's where I drilled mine. Haven't fitted tyres to rims drilled opposite.

The argument for opposite is based on the valve stem and rim lock being heavy points, to help with balancing. But a rim lock can weight over 100grams, compared to bugger all for the valve stem.

Some say fit two rim locks opposite each other, but I reckon tyre fitting would suck then.
I spent the summer of 86 changing tyres at a bike shop ( with tyre levers) , so I've seen just about every variety. The 2 rimlock was always a bugger, especially on 17 inch wheels. Lock oppoite valve was easiest - start with the lock, no need to worry about the trailing edge of the tyre creeping ( ie no need to risk leaving a third lever hooed under a spoke)
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Bit of race tape to hold in place but the tube will clamp it down , you never have to worry about throwing a weight but as I said it does not balance the tyre ,

From memory the motion light locks are 75 grams , makes balancing cheaper lead is expensive !
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Thanks Dr AT

Its great to hear from a frequent fitter. I don't do it often enough to remember what works. That's what I tell the Mrs, anyway...

Also forgot to put a rag under the bearing to start with, at the last trailside repair. Jay will be amused to hear I needed new bearings not long after that. Parking in a deep puddle probably didn't help though.
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Old 09-21-2013, 04:22 AM   #10
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Thanks for the replys gents.
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Old 09-21-2013, 05:40 AM   #11
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Got a cush rear wheel that hasnt got a drilling for rimlock,it has possibly run bib inserts,is the recommended position for rimlock 4 spokes distance from valve stem spud? like most bikes?

If you use over 14 psi in your tyres leave the rimlocks in the shed.
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Old 09-21-2013, 06:10 AM   #12
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If you use over 14 psi in your tyres leave the rimlocks in the shed.
Good info,i recently had to remove a rimlock that had broken the thread,i always run around 20psi in my tyres and i found the tyre didnt spin after doing this,it was rear tyre.
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Old 09-21-2013, 06:22 AM   #13
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If you use over 14 psi in your tyres leave the rimlocks in the shed.
till you get a flat and need to limp a few k's

if it was my bike i'd be placing it opposite the valve for balancing
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:21 AM   #14
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till you get a flat and need to limp a few k's
Heavy duty zip ties will keep a tyre on the rim and stop the tube comming out, will get most bikes home.
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Old 09-21-2013, 02:03 PM   #15
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Heavy duty zip ties will keep a tyre on the rim and stop the tube comming out, will get most bikes home.

Yeah, but they won't help if you got that flat front tyre at 100 k's out the back of Arkaroola and the tyre is peeling off the rim before you come to a stop

I haven't used mt 21's since, and rim locks are non negotiable now So is a spare set of undies.
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