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Old 09-23-2013, 04:39 PM   #1
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Slavens racing Skid/Bash Plate

Hi all

I have a black dog cycleworks side stand relocation bracket and am wanting to buy a skid/bash plate. Does anyone know if the slavens racing skid plate will fit with the black dog cycle works side stand relocation bracket?

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Old 09-23-2013, 04:44 PM   #2
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Hi all

I have a black dog cycleworks side stand relocation bracket and am wanting to buy a skid/bash plate. Does anyone know if the slavens racing skid plate will fit with the black dog cycle works side stand relocation bracket?

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That's the combo I have and it works fine.
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Old 09-23-2013, 04:54 PM   #3
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that's the combo i have and it works fine.
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Old 09-23-2013, 05:02 PM   #4
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same here.

one tip, once you get the plate, check the fit. i found mine was really tight up front on the support bracket that holds the front 2 bolts. you can either grind down the welds on the front of the plate, or grind down the support. i did the support and it makes fitting a lot less hassle. used to be a constant battle not to cross thread the bolts. now it goes on without issue.

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Old 09-23-2013, 07:27 PM   #5
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I need to upgrade my bash plate as well. I can see that the stock is ok until I get new tires :) Is their a reason you guys went with this skid plate over others?
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:33 PM   #6
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High quality and good price!
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:44 PM   #7
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:17 AM   #8
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Awesome. Thanks for all the replies. Now to save some money, shipping to New Zealand gets expensive!
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:32 AM   #9
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I need to upgrade my bash plate as well. I can see that the stock is ok until I get new tires :) Is their a reason you guys went with this skid plate over others?
It's at least $100 less expensive that the BDCW or Weld plates, but still provides good coverage. I've been running it for a year and a half and have no complaints.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:58 AM   #10
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I assume you guys are talking about this...

http://slavensracing.com/shop/skid-p...990-adventure/

One issue that I see in this is there is no protection for hard direct impacts. Sure for flying bouncing rocks this plate seem good, but if you actually impact something non movable it seems it's metal on metal on your sump.

Important difference on the blackdog it seems is this big ass rubber stopper that sits between the plate and your engine. If you take an impact this will prevent the plate from pushing into your engine, and also it leviates the pressure on the mounting points during impact.

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Old 09-24-2013, 11:21 AM   #11
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While the BDCW plate is a nice piece,,, for something that is going to take a pounding, IMO way overpriced. I've had both and currently have the Slavens on my Adventure. It's taken some hits that basically stopped the bike dead in it's tracks. Yup it's bent and tweaked but that shows it's absorbing the impacts and not passing them though. You could buy the rubber block from BDCW to add to the Slavens and still be nearly $100 ahead.
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Old 09-24-2013, 11:29 AM   #12
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I assume you guys are talking about this...

http://slavensracing.com/shop/skid-p...990-adventure/

One issue that I see in this is there is no protection for hard direct impacts.
You are confusing Superenduro and Adventure skidplates.
The Blackdog & Slavens for the Adventure are the same, and perfectly acceptable. neither need the "block" shown.
The Blackdog plate for the SE is a (IMO) lazy design copied from the ADV. It needs that block. This is because the rear mounts are not solid in any way (elliptical holes with rubber), and the front is mounting to the oil tank which hangs off the radiator. So on the SE there is absolutely zero solid mounting points skid plate. The ADV front mounting is solid.

After enough people complained, Blackdog added that rubber block to the SE plate. It's not needed on the ADV plate, and infact probably not the best thing to add, as you don't actually want to attach the plate to the engine. You just have no other option on the SE, but you do on the ADV.

I have both blackdog plates. IMO, the one on the ADV is great, the one on the SE is not really acceptable.
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:06 PM   #13
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There's some engineering in the stock skid plate that nobody has taken into account in the aftermarket. The Weld86 plate (no affiliation) is closest to a safe design to be under these big bikes.
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:50 PM   #14
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There's some engineering in the stock skid plate that nobody has taken into account in the aftermarket. The Weld86 plate (no affiliation) is closest to a safe design to be under these big bikes.
I'll bite. What's the engineering issue?
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Old 09-24-2013, 01:29 PM   #15
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I'll bite. What's the engineering issue?
The rear mounts are not supported very well on most of the skid plates. They are prone to bending over, sometimes enough to come loose from the mounting point(s). During the same or on the next big hit, the part of the mount perpendicular to the plate can punch a hole in your engine case.

The "fix" that a lot of people use is a bunch of washers meant to capture that rear mount as solid as possible. You don't want that rear mount captured that solid. The stock plate has the oval hole for a reason. They expect flex between the frame mounting point at the rear and the engine mount bracket at the front. The hole is shaped that way for a reason. Capturing that rear mount puts extra stress through the front engine mount and engine itself.

The Weld86 plate uses thicker material for the rear mounting tabs. The thicker material increases the bending strength of those mounting tabs. KTM boxed those rear mounts which makes them stronger in bending than any aftermarket design.
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