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Old 10-14-2013, 09:35 PM   #76
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To those who say they have a lot of confrontations with other drivers, what is the common denominator in each of those situations?
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:27 AM   #77
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Yep I got to say even the back dirt roads right on the Front Range just since I have lived here seems to have more hot heads not liking you wanting to get around them out of their dust clouds. They rather you follow them at 10mph all the way up for 20 miles and 200 feet back...LOL Don't get near them or it freaks them out (I been yelled at for tail gating a bunch of times...um buddy I'm two car lengths back get over it). Or how about pull over and just let me by...that would be a novel idea and I'll be gone. Or let me stay back there and listen to be rev my engine...whatever the dust don't hurt me I'm a dirt rider anyways...LOL
Funny, since I've mounted really bright LEDs on my bikes, I have a lot more people pull over to let me around. I make sure to give them a nice wave over my shoulder as I ride past. Not sure if the LEDs are really annoying in their mirror, or if it just makes them more aware of me.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:44 AM   #78
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To those who say they have a lot of confrontations with other drivers, what is the common denominator in each of those situations?

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Old 10-15-2013, 05:48 AM   #79
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We're living in the toal breakdown of society brought on by many things, one of which is the liberal sense of ENTITLEMENT, I BELIEVE IN "ME" and GET THE &^** OUT OF MY WAY...

It's only going to get worse.
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:08 AM   #80
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:57 AM   #81
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We're living in the toal breakdown of society brought on by many things, one of which is the liberal sense of ENTITLEMENT, I BELIEVE IN "ME" and GET THE &^** OUT OF MY WAY...

It's only going to get worse.
Really you have to bring politics into this thread!? Go back to Texas.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:50 AM   #82
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He told me that the faster vehicle has the right of way on national forest roads.
That's better than the bigger vehicle has the right of way.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:16 AM   #83
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Funny, since I've mounted really bright LEDs on my bikes, I have a lot more people pull over to let me around. I make sure to give them a nice wave over my shoulder as I ride past. Not sure if the LEDs are really annoying in their mirror, or if it just makes them more aware of me.
No it's annoyance, I pull over too for motorcycles the bouncing factory headlight is annoying I could imagine some of our Dual Sport setups are down right insane. Yep always best to have brights on when coming up to people during the day on dirt roads...even in light they get annoying watching them bounce in your mirror.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:17 AM   #84
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That's better than the bigger vehicle has the right of way.
In 3rd world countries bigger vehicles do have the right away...LOL
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:26 AM   #85
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Really you have to bring politics into this thread!? Go back to Texas.
LOL!...Well, ib, politics might be a bit of a mirror for our societal behavior...or vice versa...so maybe it's a good fit for this discussion. Disrespect, rude behavior, a lack of cooperative logic, and an inability to put ourselves in each other's shoes is rampant from the street to Washington D.C. People are factionalized into a strong "us vs. them", "my way or the highway", and other examples of selfish, self-important, ego driven attitudes...maybe a little like a guy smacking someone else in reference to what state they're from.

And on that issue of entitlement, I'd be surprised if you really believe that the level of governmental entitlement that exists right now is really good for the nation as a whole or the individual human spirit. Rude, outlandish, self-serving behavior behind the wheel/handlebar is often the product of low self esteem. Lavish, undeserved entitlement may be one of the most damaging elements to an individual's feeling of self-worth, so yeah...some aspect of politics and entitlement could be at play in societal, bad behavior...or maybe not. It's at least a worthy issue of discussion as to why people act like they do.

There are a decent number of people even in this country who are in need of help and government entitlement programs due to a variety of issues. However, maybe all of us, able bodied or not, could learn something from this guy.

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Old 10-15-2013, 09:10 AM   #86
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No it's annoyance, I pull over too for motorcycles the bouncing factory headlight is annoying I could imagine some of our Dual Sport setups are down right insane. Yep always best to have brights on when coming up to people during the day on dirt roads...even in light they get annoying watching them bounce in your mirror.
I'll take it any way I can get it. It makes a huge difference in getting people to pull over. I suppose it's the next best thing to blue flashing lights while still being (somewhat) legal. If I run my 55W HID + LEDs, I'm pretty sure paint would start peeling off the back of the cage in front of me.

Bright lights save time.

I once attended a local 4x4 club meeting on behalf of NCTR. During Q&A, they asked me why the dirt bikers are always acting like they are in a race & need to get around them. My answer: If we went that slow we would fall over.

I once got behind a 4x4 club outing on 7 mile. At one creek crossing, I did an air dab on my XR600 behind a jeep & fell over in a heap. The old gal in the back seat swiveled around and started snapping pictures of me laying on the ground.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:27 AM   #87
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Great story, but I'm not sure the relevance. I'm sure you will tell me about lifting your self from adversity or something along those lines, but he also had strong support along the way. He also was obviously gifted with intelligence and a strong will.

You probably don't want to know my politics. I find the only problem with the ACA is that it isn't single payer. Other entitlement programs? You would have to show me proof that they make people into dangerous dicks.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:29 AM   #88
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There are grumpy, self-centered, hot heads in all socio-economic walks of life. If someone is behind me like that, I pull over and slow down so they can pass, or change lanes if possible. If they are in front of me, I will do what I can to get around them. If they yell, throw the finger, etc, I just let it go, no reason to feed the fire.

There is really no good thing that can come out of a face-to-face confrontation, as the risk for serious escalation increases dramatically. Yeah, some are just bluffing, but if you call their bluff, they may not react out of fear and do something even worse.

As for the 4x4 comment up above, it all depends on the group you are dealing with. I am part of a 4x4 group, and each time we have been on a trail and any other group comes up and is moving faster (bikes, quads, cyclists, other cagers), we always pull over the first spot we can and let them by.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:29 AM   #89
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Really you have to bring politics into this thread!? Go back to Texas.
Maybe you'll be a victim. Stay in CO and out of Texas.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:32 AM   #90
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Maybe you'll be a victim. Stay in CO and out of Texas.
Unfortunately I go to Texas once in a while. My Dad was born there and my Aunt and Uncle live in Austin. I really like Austin.
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