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Old 10-06-2013, 07:31 PM   #46
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Polite never failed to get more respect than being an asshole,
A lot of cops should read this line.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:39 PM   #47
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On the bike I always just stop, turn off the bike and pull the key and hold my arms out with the keys dangling in one hand, literally like I am being held at gun point. I find if you act like the horrible criminal you are (speeding is pretty much murder eh) the cops are nicer too you.

I just wish I was joking...
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:42 PM   #48
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:51 PM   #49
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Eh what does FYYFF mean? well actually what does the second to last F stand for.
"F you, you F-ing F". I'm not sure if I'm allowed to actually spell it out, but you should be able to figure it out from that.
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:03 PM   #50
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I'm way more worried he'll ask me what my FYYFF sticker means.
That has potential for a bad take of an old Abbott & Costello skit.

Cop: What's that sticker mean?
Rider: F*** you, you F***ing F***.
Cop: Now, there's no need to be rude, I was just curious what it meant.
Rider: F*** you, you F***ing F***.
Cop: Listen, if you don't want to tell me, how about just keeping quiet?
Rider: I said F*** you, you F***ing F***.
Cop: [Tazes rider]
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:08 PM   #51
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:16 PM   #52
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Ask for your keys?
Why would they need your keys? Ive never heard that one.

I've been screamed at over the PA to throw my keys on the ground a few times. I think it gives them a boner or something?

The bike that has a master switch and no key was interesting, he figured pointing a gun at me was the only option...is it illegal to have a master switch and no 'key' per se? He asked me after his neck vein went down a bit if the bike was stolen, I shrugged and said we wouldn't be here talking if it was.
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Old 10-07-2013, 12:18 AM   #53
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That has potential for a bad take of an old Abbott & Costello skit.

Cop: What's that sticker mean?
Rider: F*** you, you F***ing F***.
Cop: Now, there's no need to be rude, I was just curious what it meant.
Rider: F*** you, you F***ing F***.
Cop: Listen, if you don't want to tell me, how about just keeping quiet?
Rider: I said F*** you, you F***ing F***.
Cop: [Tazes rider]
OK now i'm totally confused, I thought that the second last F was for fat.
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Old 10-07-2013, 07:20 AM   #54
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As for the legalities of forcing you to remove the helmet, I would say that depends on the reason for the stop. For example, If you got stopped for an equipment violation, there's no reason he needs to ID you, forcing you to remove your helmet would be outside the scope of the stop, there's no reason he needs a positive ID for a simple equipment citation.
The officer needs to ID you regardless of the reason for the stop. He's got to be prepared to testify that the person listed on the citation is the person he gave the ticket to.
Why try and make his job difficult?
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:54 AM   #55
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What I do depends on how he approaches me and how he treats me. He wants to be the guy who's in charge, ok no problem, I'll let him set the tone of the stop. If he makes me feel comfortable with the situation, that's what he gets in return. If he's a dick and thinks he needs to intimidate or he embarks on some kind of fishing trip, I won't do shit for him.
As for the legalities of forcing you to remove the helmet, I would say that depends on the reason for the stop. For example, If you got stopped for an equipment violation, there's no reason he needs to ID you, forcing you to remove your helmet would be outside the scope of the stop, there's no reason he needs a positive ID for a simple equipment citation.
As for taking the ignition key, as long as it's not illegal to have a key in or on my vehicle, he had better not remove it, just as he had better not reach in my car and remove a camera or cell phone. If he has no articulable suspicion there is, was or about to be a crime he needs to keep his mitts out of and off of my personal belongings.
Wrong, if you are driving/riding you must have a valid driver's license (with motorcycle endorsement) that will be checked when you get stopped...
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:22 PM   #56
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Wrong, if you are driving/riding you must have a valid driver's license (with motorcycle endorsement) that will be checked when you get stopped...
Then his investigation has gone beyond a simple equipment violation. You conveniently did not quote the part where I said a simple equipment violation. If he is checking for an endorsement, that has nothing whatsoever to do with a light out. He doesn't need to know if you have an endorsement to cite you for a light out.
Yes, he will most likely check your license but that's a different investigation that he has decided to do that has nothing to do with the original equipment violation.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:27 PM   #57
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The officer needs to ID you regardless of the reason for the stop. He's got to be prepared to testify that the person listed on the citation is the person he gave the ticket to.
Why try and make his job difficult?
Not by law he doesn't, it may be his policy or his department's policy but if he stopped you for a light out, that's the scope of his investigation.
Again, I specifically said "equipment violation" and not a moving violation.
As for making his job difficult, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't give a shit if he made my job difficult. So is life.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:01 PM   #58
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I'm for all purposes deaf when I have my helmet on, I ignore everything the LEO says until I get my helmet off
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:40 PM   #59
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...The bike that has a master switch and no key was interesting, he figured pointing a gun at me was the only option...is it illegal to have a master switch and no 'key' per se? He asked me after his neck vein went down a bit if the bike was stolen, I shrugged and said we wouldn't be here talking if it was.
My GSXR's set up the same way with a hidden switch and I've never had one pull a gun on me, even when stopped for going over a hundred. You must look like a hooligan or you won the lottery that day. ;);)
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:59 PM   #60
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LOL I didn't see that comment comming


I feel stepping off the bike may be misconstrued as and act of confrontation


asking for the keys is silly IMHO if you were going o dart you would have been long gone
I'm 6'5" and when I get off the bike, when pulled over, I've noticed that the cop backs up a little. I guess they don't feel comfortable when you're larger than the man.
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