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Old 10-06-2013, 05:30 PM   #1
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Since this NYC incident, I have been much more aware of others that may have been in tune to the situation that evolved.
Look, I am an old fart that has been riding since the mid 70's, but in ATGATT
no one knows if I am a "threat" or just out for a ride.
Pisses me that the issues others had 1200 MI from me have an impact on my
"enjoyment" of riding.

WTF?
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:43 PM   #2
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Since this NYC incident, I have been much more aware of others that may have been in tune to the situation that evolved.
Look, I am an old fart that has been riding since the mid 70's, but in ATGATT
no one knows if I am a "threat" or just out for a ride.
Pisses me that the issues others had 1200 MI from me have an impact on my
"enjoyment" of riding.

WTF?
Sadly, you are correct that the actions of these thugs and hooligans will impact the rest of us.

That is why it is critical that we as riders loudly condemn the illegal actions of these few for if we don't the wide sweeping changes to law and enforcement that are sure to result will sweep us up too.
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:48 PM   #3
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One of the latest Brit digital mags I subscribe to has an article/editorial on a stretch of UK road that's been closed to motorcycles due to asshats causing trouble.
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Old 10-06-2013, 06:22 PM   #4
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Izzat all you have to worry about? Consider yourself fortunate and quit yer whining.
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Old 10-06-2013, 06:26 PM   #5
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One of the latest Brit digital mags I subscribe to has an article/editorial on a stretch of UK road that's been closed to motorcycles due to asshats causing trouble.
This is not the UK. Roads here that are maintained using state and federal tax dollars including fuel tax and license tax can't really be denied to those who paid those taxes. One of the reasons for the American Revolution was Britain denying the people the benefits of their taxation.

It's been done in the past. The most notable and egregious was prohibiting motorcycles from the Garden State Parkway in NJ. But nobody bothered to take it through the legal system at the time. More recent is the feds overturning the prohibition of motorcycles from the HOV lanes.

I wouldn't read too much into this. They're going after the responsible individuals and not blaming the driver. I can foresee that these undisciplined events by motorcycle groups will no longer be tolerated, and that's been a long time coming. Groups have no business obstructing intersections to allow their own passage. That's a police responsibility. So is denying others their right to share the road while they ride slowly and try to enforce their own rules on others.
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Old 10-06-2013, 06:55 PM   #6
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This is not the UK.
This is an international site, and there are asshats everywhere...
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:00 PM   #7
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Since this NYC incident, I have been much more aware of others that may have been in tune to the situation that evolved.
Look, I am an old fart that has been riding since the mid 70's, but in ATGATT
no one knows if I am a "threat" or just out for a ride.
Pisses me that the issues others had 1200 MI from me have an impact on my
"enjoyment" of riding.

WTF?
You worry too much. If you ride alone then what happened in NY will not effect you at all.

If you ride with a group of Hooligans on the other hand...
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:58 PM   #8
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Has anyone really seen a change in the way other drivers "perceive" of riders?

I didn't think so. The problem is in your mind. There won't be any backlash from this as far as how cagers treat riders.
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:21 PM   #9
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I seriously doubt there will be any impact on how riders and drivers will interact on the road other than drivers may become more aware of motorcycles.

The real concern is when we try to make positive changes like legalizing splitting, fighting exclusion from private communities or public businesses, health care penlites or exclusions, or "safety" checkpoints.

John Q Public will remember, and say F-them, just a bunch of hooligans.
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:23 PM   #10
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Give it a week or two. The over-hyped, short attention span world we live in will have forgotten all about it by then and moved on to the next thing.
I doubt this is going to be another Hollister.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:18 AM   #11
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I never was impacted by some actions some joyless old farts didn't find the right way to live.
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:45 PM   #12
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Um, what now?
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:55 PM   #13
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I doubt this is going to be another Hollister.
Are you talking about the guy who ran his bike into a crowd of pedestrians while doing a burnout/wheelie? I lived next door to him! He was extremely embarrassed, and it took him a long time to get his licence back. I don't think he ever sat on another bike. Really took the wind out of his sail.
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Old 10-07-2013, 03:27 PM   #14
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Are you talking about the guy who ran his bike into a crowd of pedestrians while doing a burnout/wheelie? I lived next door to him! He was extremely embarrassed, and it took him a long time to get his licence back. I don't think he ever sat on another bike. Really took the wind out of his sail.
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