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Old 10-11-2013, 12:22 PM   #151
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This is based on the average number of days between 25F and 95F. It ignores rain, snow and icy roads. Personally I'm comfortable from 40F to 100F, YMMV as they say...
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:25 PM   #152
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Hawaii is a bit misleading in that the speed limit on all of the islands is 45....
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:33 PM   #153
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I'll give em rain, but ignoring snow and icy roads seems a bit disingenuous.

Not a lot of guys riding on ice.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:46 PM   #154
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Dude, if CA is your paradise, as it appears to be, WTF are you doing in WA? Based in your insistence on the perfection of CA there is NO reason at all why you are not living there. NOTHING should stop you. Now, would you please and let others have an opinion FFS!

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BEcause I own property in WA that tenants destroyed and can;t be sold. so I HAD to move back and deal with it.

Sometimes there are other issues that get in the way of riding.

Telling me to stfu and quench my opinion so that you can preach your more important opinion, is exactly why I would't live in either of the Virginia's either. MOST people live in Cities on the coasts. That's a simple fact. If you don't want to live in a blue state because of politics, that's fine, but it's really not a very good argument as to what makes the best state to live and ride in year round. Lots of democrats live in Kansas, and there's plenty of republicans in CA.

But CA has the best riding, best variety, and best legal status of any of the states, bar none. It's not even a fair fight.

Did you do a lot of riding in the superstorm Sandy Blizzard? Not too many hurricanes in CA. Not impossible, I mean when I lived there there was a tornado in Huntington harbor, but it's pretty damned rare to not be able to ride for any reason at all. And the riding, is... EPIC. and - Lane Splitting

I've articulated a number of actual REASONS why Ca is the best. Other than "NUH UH" I haven't really heard a lot of actual logical reasons why WV (or anywhere else) would be equal to much less a 'better' place to ride year round than Cali.

Can you lane split in your state? If not, sorry but you lose. BECAUSE Lane splitting makes other drivers more aware of and accepting of bikes. You may disagree, it's perfectly your right to be wrong.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:51 PM   #155
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Hawaii is a bit misleading in that the speed limit on all of the islands is 45....
UG, that would get old real quick. When I went back to Indiana, the home of the indy 500, I was amazed at all these perfect rural country roads... and every single one had friggen 25 MPH speed limits.

It's my big gripe for Oregon too, are there ANY 70 mph speed limits in that state? If so they are few and FARRRRR between.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:57 PM   #156
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yeah, but there are some parts that arent so bad.....

HWY 1




Ave of Giants



HWY 33



Angeles Crest



or you could always visit .....

Yosemite



sequia national forest



carrizo plain



death valley





I could go on and on but it wouldnt be fair to most of the rest of you because we get to ride 365 days a year

All of those places are great! BUT, they are also away from why I wouldn't want to live there.

Don't get me wrong, WV has the same issues with great riding and no jobs that CA has in the great riding areas! Can't have it all I guess.

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Old 10-11-2013, 01:01 PM   #157
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BEcause I own property in WA that tenants destroyed and can;t be sold. so I HAD to move back and deal with it.

Sometimes there are other issues that get in the way of riding.

Telling me to stfu and quench my opinion so that you can preach your more important opinion, is exactly why I would't live in either of the Virginia's either. MOST people live in Cities on the coasts. That's a simple fact. If you don't want to live in a blue state because of politics, that's fine, but it's really not a very good argument as to what makes the best state to live and ride in year round. Lots of democrats live in Kansas, and there's plenty of republicans in CA.

But CA has the best riding, best variety, and best legal status of any of the states, bar none. It's not even a fair fight.

Did you do a lot of riding in the superstorm Sandy Blizzard? Not too many hurricanes in CA. Not impossible, I mean when I lived there there was a tornado in Huntington harbor, but it's pretty damned rare to not be able to ride for any reason at all. And the riding, is... EPIC. and - Lane Splitting

I've articulated a number of actual REASONS why Ca is the best. Other than "NUH UH" I haven't really heard a lot of actual logical reasons why WV (or anywhere else) would be equal to much less a 'better' place to ride year round than Cali.

Can you lane split in your state? If not, sorry but you lose. BECAUSE Lane splitting makes other drivers more aware of and accepting of bikes. You may disagree, it's perfectly your right to be wrong.
Dude, you are trying to win here! There is no winning on the internet. I gave my opinion and let it ride. You gave your opinion over and over and over, and argued with any dissenting opinion. THAT is why I said SFTU! Give it a rest! You are becoming a bore!

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All of those places are great! BUT, they are also away from why I wouldn't want to live there.

Don't get me wrong, WV has the same issues with great riding and no jobs that CA has in the great riding areas! Can't have it all I guess.

Jim
Um, Angeles crest is the suburbs of DOWNTOWN La. In fact LA is immediately surrounded on all 4 sides by fantastic rides. Redwoods are not far from frisco, Tahoe is a couple hours from Frisco or Sac. HWY 1, is EVERYWHERE. "too far" to good riding is really just not so.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:10 PM   #159
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Um, Angeles crest is the suburbs of DOWNTOWN La. In fact LA is immediately surrounded on all 4 sides by fantastic rides. Redwoods are not far from frisco, Tahoe is a couple hours from Frisco or Sac. HWY 1, is EVERYWHERE. "too far" to good riding is really just not so.
See what I mean? I give up, you win, CA is a paradise! We should all move there! Happy now?

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Old 10-11-2013, 01:40 PM   #160
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This is based on the average number of days between 25F and 95F. It ignores rain, snow and icy roads. Personally I'm comfortable from 40F to 100F, YMMV as they say...
Nice. I was just getting ready to post this map.
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Just to see where riders live... taken from here:
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policyinform.../mv1.cfm#foot4

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State	# of Motorcycles
California (4)	818,650
Florida (2)	574,346
Texas (1)	442,483
Pennsylvania	404,896
Ohio		390,522
Illinois (3)	350,292
New York	345,855
New Jersey (2)	330,489
Wisconsin (1)	317,656
Michigan	308,349
Minnesota (1)	240,289
North Carolina	223,305
Washington (1)	220,886
Indiana		204,407
Georgia (1)	199,620
Virginia	195,829
Arizona		178,928
Iowa (1)	174,263
Colorado 	173,231
Tennessee (1)	168,420
Massachusetts 	159,007
Missouri	140,947
Alabama		127,301
Oklahoma (1)	127,150
Maryland	120,122
South Carolina	108,371
Oregon		108,317
Kentucky (1)	98,495
Connecticut	97,963
Kansas		81,361
New Hampshire	79,267
Arkansas (1)	76,301
South Dakota	69,670
Nevada (1)	68,976
Louisiana	68,460
New Mexico	64,912
Idaho		62,623
Utah		59,430
West Virginia	57,564
Nebraska	51,376
Maine (1)	50,327
Montana 	47,011
Rhode Island 	33,085
North Dakota	32,668
Alaska		31,020
Delaware	30,498
Hawaii		30,498
Wyoming (1)	30,378
Vermont		30,071
Mississippi (1)	28,078
Dist. of Col.	3,539
Total		8,437,502
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really now

population of California 38 million or one bike per 46.5 residents
land area of California 163,696 sq miles or 5 bikes per square mile

population of New Hampshire 1.3 million or one bike per 16.5 residents
land area of New Hampshire 9,304 square miles or 8.5 bikes per square mile

who is it that has the most bike's?

that right, in New Hampshire, a resident is almost 3 times as likely to own a bike as Californian

if the roads and riding is so good, why don't more people own bikes ?
I took the data from the map that p0diabl0 posted and then copied and pasted population data from the 2012 population estimate from Wikipedia (US census site was down due to gubmint shutdown) into Excel. I then calculated the motorcycle density per 100,000 population for each state, as well as the average for the entire US (excluding territories). I sorted the data by motorcycle density, highest to lowest.



I am surprised that California ranks so low. Though I think a lot of it has to do with urban density. If you look, the more rural states are ranked higher in density, with some notable exceptions on either side.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:03 PM   #162
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See what I mean? I give up, you win, CA is a paradise! We should all move there! Happy now?

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Old 10-11-2013, 02:12 PM   #163
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What everyone has said about CA is true - positive and negative. IMHO, SoCal has better weather in the winter than NoCal.

However, Ventura County to San Louis Obispo County has some of the best roads outside one's door, the BEST weather in all of CA (year round), not very crowded, close to the beach and mountains, great food.

Keep in mind, yes CA is more expensive to live (so is NYC), but you have to pay to play.

Zeid, I love AZ, but dude, it is fucking hot in the summer. I don't care if it is a "dry" heat, hot is hot

You can keep Arkansas, Mississippi,Alabama, etc. My question to you is, if one divorces his wife, is she still your sister?

The bottom line is, to paraphrase Woody Allen "the only cultural advantage to LA is the weather."

YMMV.

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Old 10-11-2013, 02:21 PM   #164
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Nice. I was just getting ready to post this map.
The map is misleading though, as far as days that are rideable for many people. I'd ride trails when there's snow/ice on the ground and the temps are 5F...rather than ride in FL when the temps are 75-95F with lightning scattered all over the state.

I'll ride in rain. I'll ride in snow. I'll ride on salty roads. I'll ride when it's 100F. I'll ride when it's -10F. I'll ride in downtown Chicago traffic. I'll ride in BFE, surrounded by herds of deer and flocks of wild turkey.

I don't like riding when lightning is crackling all over the sky.
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