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Old 11-24-2013, 08:31 AM   #151
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For those that have the 1190, what's the maintenance like? I'd like to trade in my 2011 1200GSA for something more reliable and the 1190R and Yam S10 are my two contenders. One thing I like about the boxer engine is how simple it is to work on and do my on service. It's taking it to the dealer for warranty issues that I'm getting sick of.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:50 AM   #152
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I finally got up to Carolina KTM and rode Scott Miller's demo, the same bike Jake Mountain rode earlier.

I really can't add much to what others have already posted, but will post my impressions just to reiterate.

The bike was in sport mode with additional suspension stiffening as if to compensate for luggage, which wasn't mounted. This is the configuration Scott uses for general riding, as he probably weighs 280+. For reference, I weigh 235 buck nekkid. And, to give some idea of my perspective, I owned a 950SE as my only bike for 5 years, sold two years ago; now ride a sweet old '93 'Zook GSX1100G on the street, and an '09 530 EXC everywhere else.

Engine: Absolutely rips, but very easy to ride. Powerband seems 10,000 rpm wide. I chugged through a 35 mph school zone in 4th gear, and it pulled hard from that point once I got through. Major thrust everywhere. Very smooth and quiet.

Suspension/Chassis: Sport mode was really comfortable for me. Firm, but comfortable and very well-controlled. The handling tended more toward stable than flickable, but flickable is probably available with a little chassis tuning. There were some bumpy corners I was looking forward to taking at a good clip (Jake: Molly's Backbone), but had traffic interference and no time for a re-do. Confidence-inspiring overall, with no real adjustment period necessary.

Ergos: Like most have said, more like a street bike than the previous LC8's. I would say the seating position is more like the SM-T than the Adv or SE. Not a problem for me, for the way I would use this bike. The legroom was less than I expected, but not a problem even with my 36" inseam. In this part of the world, we have great paved twisties, great unpaved state roads, FS roads, and Jeep trails, and super-tight woods single-track. Not much in-between. I wouldn't take this bike in the woods. My 530 is almost too much. So, the streety ergos are fine.

Other Stuff: A little buffeting from the shield, but I didn't try to adjust it. It wouldn't be an issue that affected a purchase decision. I was riding in mid-60's temps, in a one-piece 'Stitch, and I noticed no heat. The seat tended to slide me forward; I would have to flatten it out. The brakes were phenomenal. The bike has a really light, well-balanced feel.

Overall, I was really impressed, and can't really criticize the performance, comfort, and handling of the bike considering it hadn't been tweaked at all to my preferences. If I want to nit-pick, maybe it's a bit too refined for my taste. A slip-on might take care of that.

Would I own one? Don't know. I'm not crazy about all the electronics. I like to work on my stuff at home. I also like the rough-around-the-edges personality of the earlier LC8's. But that's just personal preference. Objectively, I'll call the 1190 a winner.
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:06 AM   #153
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December 1
I can hardly stand it!

If you ordered a bike for a customer, when would you know the VIN? Would I be correct in assuming "on or slightly after December 1," once the bikes are released to each dealer that placed an order? Just asking because I want to shop around for insurance/get it set-up.
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:23 AM   #154
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I can hardly stand it!

If you ordered a bike for a customer, when would you know the VIN? Would I be correct in assuming "on or slightly after December 1," once the bikes are released to each dealer that placed an order? Just asking because I want to shop around for insurance/get it set-up.
As soon as the unit ships from KTM we are sent a notification that includes the specs (VIN, color, model, etc). Hope that helps.

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Old 11-25-2013, 01:03 PM   #155
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As soon as the unit ships from KTM we are sent a notification that includes the specs (VIN, color, model, etc). Hope that helps.

Derek
Thanks, Derek! That's what I figured. I don't want to be that super pesky customer calling the dealer with a hundred random questions ;)

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Old 11-25-2013, 03:54 PM   #156
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confirming Derek Low speed high drag.

Mountain motorsports sales boss told me essentially the the order period ends on the 30th of November and shortly after the dealers will be mailed Vin numbers, models etc. my guess would be third week in December.

Derek, I can't get out of my mind wanted to call you " Low Spark of High Heeled Boys. Traffic was and is a favorite. But Im 64 and you may not have heard of them. Thanks for your continued support. Got the skidplate , heated seats , heated grips Hepco Becker bag mounts and pair of Caribou cases. Touratech gps mount and gps shipping shortly . Going for the Givi 17 liter quicklock tankbag . Also have a Wings pipe on order and payed for. That should about do it . For now. Going to be a lot of fun putting it all together. Checking the schedule for a trackday at Barber or Road Atlanta. Getting EXCITED here in Tn.
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:18 PM   #157
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Thanks, Derek! That's what I figured. I don't want to be that super pesky customer calling the dealer with a hundred random questions ;)

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Mountain motorsports sales boss told me essentially the the order period ends on the 30th of November and shortly after the dealers will be mailed Vin numbers, models etc. my guess would be third week in December.

Derek, I can't get out of my mind wanted to call you " Low Spark of High Heeled Boys. Traffic was and is a favorite. But Im 64 and you may not have heard of them. Thanks for your continued support. Got the skidplate , heated seats , heated grips Hepco Becker bag mounts and pair of Caribou cases. Touratech gps mount and gps shipping shortly . Going for the Givi 17 liter quicklock tankbag . Also have a Wings pipe on order and payed for. That should about do it . For now. Going to be a lot of fun putting it all together. Checking the schedule for a trackday at Barber or Road Atlanta. Getting EXCITED here in Tn.
I haven't heard of them lol. Looking like your machine will outfitted nicely. I put another 428 miles on mine yesterday.
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Old 12-03-2013, 08:47 AM   #158
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Here is a brief list of the goodies now available from KTM US, we have most in stock, MSRP shown:

U6913ADV 1190 ADV Touring Package (Following Items Included) $3298.99
60305979100 Akrapovic Slip On $1099.99
60307940000 Heated Rider Seat $319.99
60307947000 Heated Pass. Seat $229.99
60312924000 Touring Case Left $599.99
60312925000 Touring Case Right $599.99
6031296814433 Crash Bar Set Black $319.99
75012919000 Tank Bag $155.99

U6913ADVR 1190 Adventure R Off-Road Package (Following Items Included) $3268.99
60305979100 Akrapovic Slip On $1099.99
60303990044 Skid Plate Adventure $289.99
60312912144 Case Carrier Complete $279.99
60312922000 Case 45L Aluminum $469.99
60312923000 Case 31L Aluminum $469.99
60314910033 Driving Light Kit $529.99
75012919000 Tank Bag $155.99

Additional Items:

60312924060 Inner Bag Side Case Right $59.99
60312925060 Inner Bag Side Case Left $59.99
60312929000 Touring Top Case $559.99
60312929030 Top Case Back Rest $41.99
60312939000 Touring Electric Kit $329.99
60312964044 Heated Grips $134.99
SXS07125200 Progressive Handlebar Mounts PHDS $199.99
6031296814404 Crash Bar Set Orange $319.99

Let me know if you have other specific questions about KTM US parts and will do my best to answer. As I said have most in stock or on my bike and have some insight as to what I like and what I don't. Also have the Fastway Adventure Pegs, several of the Touratech items, and a full set of Al Jesse Luggage mounted.

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I ordered the Off road package for my 1190R thats on its way soon. I see that the Alu cases that are listed are a 31/45. on the tour a tech site the combos listed are 31/38 and 38/45 Im curious on the correct size combo package?
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Old 12-03-2013, 10:41 PM   #159
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I ordered the Off road package for my 1190R thats on its way soon. I see that the Alu cases that are listed are a 31/45. on the tour a tech site the combos listed are 31/38 and 38/45 Im curious on the correct size combo package?
I got the KTM/Touratec panniers from my dealer for my 2014 Adv R and they are 31L/45L. The 45l is a monster....holds a 30 pack of beer with plenty of room for ice ;). Personally I would prefer the 31/38 combo just from a width point of view, but it is pretty handy having all that room sometimes.

Did I mention that I have my 2014 Adv R already ;)
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Old 12-04-2013, 06:21 AM   #160
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I got the KTM/Touratec panniers from my dealer for my 2014 Adv R and they are 31L/45L. The 45l is a monster....holds a 30 pack of beer with plenty of room for ice ;). Personally I would prefer the 31/38 combo just from a width point of view, but it is pretty handy having all that room sometimes.

Did I mention that I have my 2014 Adv R already ;)
how wide are the panniers mounted on the bike?
does it extend far beyond the handlebar width?
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:55 AM   #161
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I just spoke with KTM and here is the latest. KTM corporate is still finishing up allocations to dealers. 1190's are first to ship with the 2014 street product I am told. The machines are in warehouses awaiting transport.

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Old 12-04-2013, 11:47 AM   #162
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I just spoke with KTM and here is the latest. KTM corporate is still finishing up allocations to dealers. 1190's are first to ship with the 2014 street product I am told. The machines are in warehouses awaiting transport.

Derek
Sure as #$(*%) there is snow on the ground and its 18 degrees out side my 1190R will be in any time now.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:02 AM   #163
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I just spoke with KTM and here is the latest. KTM corporate is still finishing up allocations to dealers. 1190's are first to ship with the 2014 street product I am told. The machines are in warehouses awaiting transport.

Derek
Coming to the end of the calendar year and knowing KTM as we do I am sure they will load us up with as much inventory as possible to close the year strong...look for the 1190's any time now!
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:05 PM   #164
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Want to see the 2014 model. I hear it has a larger fuel tank. If KTM loads the dealers up (Which I hope) I smell a good deal somewhere.
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:35 PM   #165
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A large fuel tank? Where did you read that? Everything I've seen has said 23L.
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