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Old 01-22-2014, 09:54 AM   #226
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Sounds like you can't get lost if you tried.
What a bummer
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Old 01-22-2014, 10:22 AM   #227
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Here's how to win the big dunes day: Read the heading stated in the roadbook, watch the heading displayed on your GPS, try to go in roughly a straight line on the specified heading. After you've gone roughly the appropriate distance per the roadbook, and on roughly the right heading per the roadbook, your GPS will show you where the VCP is. Ride to it, then read the next entry in the roadbook for the next point and do the same thing. Do that the fastest and you'll win in the dunes!
I don't know Scott, it sounds complicated.

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Old 01-22-2014, 10:27 AM   #228
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I'm getting it now. The key is roughly maintaining your compass heading over a given distance, but there is freedom to choose your own line to get there. If you have to deviate, make a general correction for it and watch for the next waypoint.

Sounds awesome!

I have no experience with off-piste nav, but this is really what sets rally raid apart from stage racing, baja, enduros, whatever. The added complexity and mental challenge of navigating is a big part of the race.

Sure, we're not likely to get completely LOST, but that's not the point - the idea, I think, is to make accurate navigation as much an essential skill as riding quickly. If you blow a few waypoints and get penalized, it doesn't matter how fast you ride.

I think that's how it's intended, anyway.

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Old 01-22-2014, 11:53 AM   #229
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Sounds like you can't get lost if you tried.
What a bummer
The whole area in question is only a hundred miles by maybe two hundred.. It will be hard to find the wrong way, but it will be a real challenge to find the right way
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Old 01-22-2014, 12:14 PM   #230
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The whole area in question is only a hundred miles by maybe two hundred.. It will be hard to find the wrong way, but it will be a real challenge to find the right way

North to South 165 miles long
East to West 50 miles from hwy 2 to hwy 3
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Old 01-22-2014, 12:19 PM   #231
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North to South 165 miles long
East to West 50 miles from hwy 2 to hwy 3
there you go. Worst case, head north, and ask politely at the door
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It will be hard to find the wrong way, but it will be a real challenge to find the right way
Well put!
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Old 01-22-2014, 12:38 PM   #233
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I was out doing a little Dune Nav Riding the past two days with Joe Bolton and a few others with Jimmy Lewis
http://jimmylewisoffroad.com/
It was a BLAST !!!!!!

I hope to go and play in the Dunes again in a few weeks
Practice--Practice----Practice !!!!!

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Old 01-22-2014, 12:38 PM   #234
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I was out doing a little Dune Nav Riding the past two days with
Jimmy Lewis It was a BLAST !!!!!!

I hope to go and play in the Dunes again in a few weeks
Practice--Practice----Practice !!!!!

Was the class in Australia?
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Old 01-22-2014, 12:44 PM   #235
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I wish !!!!!
No it was up in Dumont Dunes
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Old 01-22-2014, 02:16 PM   #236
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Scott is assuming the leader is going to be going the right way while leading so that those following the tracks can easily catch him! Or get lost trying to follow...Learn to navigate! It is what makes rally fun and frustrating.

When I have time I'll list off the mistakes I commonly see made by novice rally riders.

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Old 01-22-2014, 02:39 PM   #237
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I wish !!!!!
No it was up in Dumont Dunes
Damn it Mark, My comment was a little more coherent when your pic was inverted! Cool bike BTW.
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:45 PM   #238
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Damn it Mark, My comment was a little more coherent when your pic was inverted! Cool bike BTW.
It is only showing inverted on Mobil devices. ( I don't know why?? )
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Howdy y'all.

I know cash is tight for most of us folks. I thought I'd throw out there that I plan on running the entire rally on one set of tires and mousse. Most of our team riders at the Tuareg last year did the whole 7-day rally on the same set. And the Diabolico has almost no liaison time. Given the terrain, it might not even be crazy to use a rear tube (or tubes on both ends?).

I also plan on a couple of oil changes and bringing 4 air filters, pre-oiled and ready to go. That's it. Pretty minimal consumable expenses.

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Howdy y'all.

I know cash is tight for most of us folks. I thought I'd throw out there that I plan on running the entire rally on one set of tires and mousse. Most of our team riders at the Tuareg last year did the whole 7-day rally on the same set. And the Diabolico has almost no liaison time. Given the terrain, it might not even be crazy to use a rear tube (or tubes on both ends?).

I also plan on a couple of oil changes and bringing 4 air filters, pre-oiled and ready to go. That's it. Pretty minimal consumable expenses.

Dave
What size and Brand of Tires are you planning on running?
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