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Old 10-25-2013, 06:42 PM   #16
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Rode the 40/7 last Nov-Dec...

You MUST ride Ruta 7 in Chile. And you MUST cross from Baja Caracoles to Cochrane - can't remember the name of the pass, but you´ll see it on the map. Did it with a couple riding 2-up on a GS1150. Gravel all the way, stunning and virtually no traffic.

Don´t rely on the gas stations on Ruta 40. They routinely run out of petrol. Carry as much spare gas as you can. And I couldn´t for the life of me find the gas station in Tres Lagos.

If they are still in the process of re-surfacing the 40, and it rains heavily, expect some of this......



Low front fender + Ruta 40 mud = going nowhere!!!

Enjoy - it´s a really great route (if you aren´t getting hammered by crosswinds!!)

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Old 10-25-2013, 07:09 PM   #17
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Hi, guys!

I am planning to go to Ushuaia next summer, too.

That is my planning, until now:

24/nov Rio de Janeiro Curitiba 850
25/nov Curitiba SMMissoes 807
26/nov SMMissoes Gualeguaychu 821
27/nov Gualeguaychu Santa Rosa 734
28/nov Santa Rosa Puerto Madryn 753
29/nov Puerto Madryn Puerto San Julian 848
30/nov Puerto San Julian Cerro Sombrero 515
01/dez Cerro Sombrero Ushuaia 414
02/dez
03/dez
04/dez
05/dez Ushuaia Rio Gallegos 577
06/dez Rio Gallegos Puerto Natales 272
07/dez
08/dez Puerto Natales El Calafate 281
09/dez
10/dez
11/dez El Calafate Perito Moreno 691
12/dez Perito Moreno Bariloche 821
13/dez
14/dez Bariloche Puelen 620
15/dez Puelen Mendoza 601
16/dez
17/dez Mendoza Rio Cuarto 472
18/dez Rio Cuarto Santa Fé 430
19/dez Santa Fé SMMissoes 802
20/dez SMMissoes Curitiba 807
21/dez Curitiba Rio de Janeiro 850

See you.
Those are some HUGE distances!! What are you riding?

- 800km+ on Ruta 3 is a seriously long drag - it is the most monotonous road I have ever ridden.

- Ushuaia to Rio Gallegos in one day is pushing it - 2 x border crossings and a wait for the ferry.

- El Calafate to Perito Moreno (691km on Ruta 40), that is probably NOT doable. Took me 2 very long days to do Chalten to Baja Caracoles (see photo above). If you get mud or strong winds on Ruta 40, it´s gonna be slow and hard work.

- Bariloche to Mendoza (1200km) in 2 days will be a lot of riding. That stretch of the 40 is relatively slow.

When I was down that way in November last year, I was lucky with the wind. I had a couple of really tough days, but I managed to keep riding. If you get super strong Patagonia winds, you may not be able to ride at all.
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Old 10-26-2013, 09:48 AM   #18
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Ruta 40 is not as difficult as the hype will lead you to believe. Manage your gas and keep an eye on the weather and you'll be fine. I expect the southern sections of 40 are mostly paved by now as I saw lots of construction when I was down there in 2011-12. I suspect I rode what are the last of the dirt sections of ruta 40.
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:27 PM   #19
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Those are some HUGE distances!! What are you riding?
Thank you, El Forko. I am riding a Kawasaki Versys650.
About the distances, I have a few days to manage, if I failure to keep this schedule.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:11 AM   #20
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I'm in Bariloche now after having ridden mostly Ruta 40 from Cafayate down.

I've found these sites to be good resources:
Ruta 40 Official Site - great interactive English map showing paved/unpaved section and gas stations. Click on the English tab, Map tab. Click on the "+i" to open up the Legend and you can click on all kinds of things to see where things are located (e.g. Gas Stations, Paved, Unpaved roads, Loose animals)
Ruta0 website - Great for putting in start/end points and looking at road conditions on certain stretches. Info about the area you're passing through and potential accommodations.

Malargüe to Barrancas - Two stretches of gravel. The first one is easy. The second one is as Jay (o*o) described. 50km with lots of ripio (loose gravel) and quicksand like lighter stuff. The 50 km stretch ends 40km before Barrancas where there's a gas station to the right just pass the Neuquen (province) welcome and inspection point. It's not well signed so look for it on the right (heading south). I didn't see any gas station at Chos Malal close to the highway and didn't go into town to look. There is an old one off Ruta 40 but it's not in use. With the wind and my speed, I was getting a bit concerned about whether I would make Zapala without using my extra gallon reserve but made it to the gas station in Las Lajas (57km from Zapala).

I've seen many ADVriders and people in Ride Reports say there's lots of paving/construction going on and that the entire Ruta 40 will be paved within a year, this year, last year, etc. I read somewhere that Argentina just decided they will pave the whole Ruta 40 for tourism but this will probably still take a couple of years and some sections get beaten up so much by weather I think it would quickly turn rougher (badly maintained asphalt can easily be worst than unpaved roads). Still if weather is okay, wind's not too bad and you take it easy on the loose gravel, sand, mud it doesn't seem too too bad.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:58 AM   #21
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I wonder if we passed each other yesterday, NomadicOne.

I saw several GS mounted ADV types between Villa LA Angostura and Bariloche. I was heading north from El Bolson on a red & black KLR with tires and yellow Ortlieb dry bag on the back.

I waved at many riders and only a couple waved back reflexively, making me think they were North Americans.

Enjoy the ride south. This whole stretch of 237 and 40 are so great.

The rubia at Cervezeria El Bolson is a lovely, proper pint and Camorra Hostel near the YPF in town, two blocks from the plaza, was a very nice placed to stay, 80ARP per bed, but I had my own room for that.
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:37 PM   #22
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Don´t rely on the gas stations on Ruta 40. They routinely run out of petrol. Carry as much spare gas as you can. And I couldn´t for the life of me find the gas station in Tres Lagos.
Just want to confirm that there is a gas station outside of Tres Lagos, about 1 km SW from the junction of 40 and 288, but none in town. And as mentioned, it being there does not guarantee that they will have fuel for you.

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I didn't see any gas station at Chos Malal close to the highway and didn't go into town to look. There is an old one off Ruta 40 but it's not in use.
There is at least one operating gas station (and I think maybe 2...) in the town of Chos Malal, but you have to enter town. We enjoyed that little town, spending last Christmas (2012) having mate with the municipal campground staff.

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Old 12-04-2013, 02:05 PM   #23
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We might have! I was in Bariloche the previous 3 days. Yesterday I did a ride up to Villa La Angostura then Highway 65 to Villa Traful/Confluencia before returning back to Bariloche. Saw lots of bikes heading northbound and waved to quite a few.

I saw two GS as well around Villa La Angostura yesterday so you might've seen them instead. I was on a white BMW F800GS, Jesse aluminum panniers, grey/blue BMW Rallye 3 suit.

Thanks for the info on El Bolson. I'm there now for 2 nights and will check out Cervezeria El Bolson. I will probably hit Esquel next and then turn east to Comodoro Rivadavia and blitz it down to Ushuaia (after Puerto San Julian, Rio Gallegos, Rio Grande). I need to catch a flight from Ushuaia to El Calafate in just over a week where I meet my girlfriend we'll do El Calafate, El Chalten, Torres del Paine by bus so I don't need to continue south of Perito Moreno on the tough stretch of Ruta 40. Next time I'll do Carretera Austral through Chile.

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I wonder if we passed each other yesterday, NomadicOne.

I saw several GS mounted ADV types between Villa LA Angostura and Bariloche. I was heading north from El Bolson on a red & black KLR with tires and yellow Ortlieb dry bag on the back.

I waved at many riders and only a couple waved back reflexively, making me think they were North Americans.

Enjoy the ride south. This whole stretch of 237 and 40 are so great.

The rubia at Cervezeria El Bolson is a lovely, proper pint and Camorra Hostel near the YPF in town, two blocks from the plaza, was a very nice placed to stay, 80ARP per bed, but I had my own room for that.
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