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Old 11-13-2013, 06:35 PM   #196
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Thank you

Great report and pics.

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Old 11-14-2013, 04:30 PM   #197
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I am awestruck by your photography skills.

Thanks for sharing such a great ride.
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Old 11-14-2013, 05:08 PM   #198
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great RR i love the star shots
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:54 PM   #199
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Thats one hell of a trip, I'm in blighty so if I want off road and mountains its Spain for me. They don't have anything on that scale. Inspirational. Thank you.

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Old 11-14-2013, 10:48 PM   #200
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Thanks for all the love guys! I really appreciate it.

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Old 11-15-2013, 08:09 AM   #201
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Great trip report Dave, and as a former professional photographer,(film era), amazing pictures. Stumbled on to this and have burned a few coffee breaks getting through it. Can't believe I've never been to the South West, scheming big time now... Regarding the fuel petcock dilemma, I'm going to try to make a couple guards for my 990. Don't remember seeing anything for this in the market place. Thanks for posting this up, well done! John
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:10 PM   #202
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Just read your ride! love it! I would love how you got the Night & star photos with a point and shoot.
Im new too photo I.m hoping you can help! thanks Keith.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:23 PM   #203
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Nasty Silt Mud

Originally Posted by dave6253 View Post

The bike and I were both getting hot, so I stopped here for a short break and snack. As I sat on the berm I ran the sand between my fingers.
I'm not sure you can call this stuff sand. Its not quite silt either. Its something between the two.
Shall we call it SALT? No that doesn't work. SIND? Maybe. Even when its not very deep, its slippery.

About ten years ago I rode on that exact road -- just after a snow storm. That SIND turns into a nasty, slick, gluey mess.

It was horrible to ride on, and get off the bikes later.

Still, it was great fun being out there.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:14 AM   #204
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Love the HDR stuff especially. Not everyone's cup of tea, but I love it and you did a fantastic job with it.
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Old 11-22-2013, 08:06 PM   #205
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Once again, great report!
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:48 AM   #206
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Most excellent ride report Dave! Toroweap and Point Sublime are both on my must see list. I'm hoping at some point the stars will align and I'll be able to make it out there.
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Old 11-24-2013, 09:07 AM   #207
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Dave, thanks for posting the tracks of your ride for all to use. I will be working on this ride for next year........
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:15 PM   #208
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:50 PM   #209
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WOW! Great RR. I hope to use a few of your tracks some day!
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:22 AM   #210
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Awesome ride report, mostly in my back yard!

I haven't done Kelly point in a couple years but I've been out there several times. It is rocky, but it is mostly baby head sized rocks. Mud is occasionally an issue as well as fallen trees across the road. It is about 4 hours each way by 4x4 but I imagine it would be much faster by bike.

I believe your spot labeled "Near Twin Points" is our traditional May camping spot. If you approach it from the other direction(through Mustang Knolls, Snap Point)you travel through a beautiful valley with an old hunters cabin and corrals.

At the eastern end of Grand Gulch Wash is an old mining camp with buildings and old dump trucks etc... It gets fairly frequent visits by small planes since the runway is still manageable.

I also can second that the short steep section you turned around to miss is a handful, but doable. I recently rode down it with a heavily loaded KTM 640 with no issues but the two guys with me weren't happy about it. One walked his bike down with a little help. It is a short section though, about 10-12 yards.

I obviously could go on and on about this area but this is not my report;)
Feel free to pm me for any route info I can help with. With a little notice I could scout some roads by Jeep or bike the next time you are planning a trip. Actually that goes for anyone that reads this.

P.S. A short word about the mud out there... is about the worst you will ever encounter. I've seen 4x4s fling right off the road after going miles on it. I saw 2 guys on 990s in Boulder City, muddy and one with a broken front fender, the other a broken collar bone. They were out there and the mud built up so bad it broke(It must be fairly common because I found one on the dry lake behind Zyzzx also?)
Flash floods are also common on the west side of the plateau in the Grand Wash drainage... been caught in them twice.
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