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Old 07-28-2014, 09:12 PM   #1
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Rump Roast (1190 ADV/R Hot Head)

Love the bike.
Hate the heat.

I would like to find out how many of 1190 owners are literally being burned by the heat coming through the seat of your 1190.

Background:
Purchased the bike new in early February.
7000+ Miles on the clock to date.
1300 Mile trip down the West Coast (26F much of day one)
2 1000+ mile rides across the Sonoran desert (100+F 3/4 of trip #2)

I am able to endure considerable discomfort. That said the last ride across the desert (8 hours in the saddle) left me quite literally with first degree burns on my posterior where it contacts the saddle. For reference, I wear cycling shorts with a synthetic chamois under Rev-it motorcycle pants. Photos of the burns are not appropriate for this site, they may however be appropriate for KTM.

In general the seat becomes incredibly hot in traffic when the temperature is above the mid 70s. Mid 80s and up, even at speed, and the seat also becomes incredibly hot. So hot that any ride over an hour and a half becomes painful.

Is the rear head of my 1190 running hotter than normal? H2O temperature is not appreciably high. Looking forward to hearing from others having this experience.

Solutions welcome!

THX

PS: My old 690 SM also ran pretty hot. Never more than mildly annoying even during a multi-day 1500+ mile backroads ride across the Pacific North West during August.
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:00 PM   #2
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I live in the Sonoran desert... It's the only place I ride. It gets hot for me everyday, especially this time of year. Combo of wings, cat removal, and jet coating appears to help according to other inmates.
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:09 PM   #3
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Appreciate your thoughts.
Running an Akra presently.
Jet coating the header alone?
Are you aware if the cat removal requires any electronic voodoo?
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:15 PM   #4
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Burns

I have 5500 miles on mine down in Texas where the triple-digit heat has just begun. I'm experiencing no real heat issues from the bike although I am using a custom Daylong saddle. --hellcreep
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:27 PM   #5
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heat

I have 4000 mi on my bike now and yes the heat has been an issue, but not in the saddle only on my thigh's. Like being slow cooked.
I put some plastic shields over the rear cylinder area attached to the frame with zip ties and the problem is reduced by 80%.
Still too warm, but acceptable.
My saddle has a thick layer of heat resistant materiel covered in heavy foil that is from the factory. My bike is a 2014. The seat is warm but not hot.
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:16 AM   #6
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Heat bothered me a lot on my standard (with foil shield). I measured seat at 130f (k-type thermocouple and an accurate instrument) after getting off the bike one day ... I raised the seat to the high position and it got much better but, have not re-measured temps. It is still uncomfortable in traffic on hot days but no longer a roaster.

Still have not yet bought heat shields but, I should.
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Old 07-29-2014, 01:13 AM   #7
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Yeah mine still burns my arse. Its the heat coming out just under the LHS of the seat where my thigh sits.
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Old 07-29-2014, 06:46 AM   #8
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Appreciate your thoughts.
Running an Akra presently.
Jet coating the header alone?
Are you aware if the cat removal requires any electronic voodoo?
Some folks have coated all the way back to the can. I don't know about post cat removal. There was some posts on it though if you search. Mine is bone stock and I'm just riding it. Hot at times yes, but nothing like you have experienced.
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Old 07-29-2014, 10:17 PM   #9
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Hoping more folks with solutions chime in!

My 1190R is also a 14' with the insulation under seat.
Heat from under the seat is less than ideal not the deal breaker that roasted rump delivers.

I'll keep this post updated as I work through a number of solutions.
Failures and successes will be shared.

So much more fun than the other bikes in the category. Only wish the mad Austrians tested the bike somewhere warm.
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Old 07-29-2014, 10:44 PM   #10
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Hoping more folks with solutions chime in!

My 1190R is also a 14' with the insulation under seat.
Heat from under the seat is less than ideal not the deal breaker that roasted rump delivers.

I'll keep this post updated as I work through a number of solutions.
Failures and successes will be shared.

So much more fun than the other bikes in the category. Only wish the mad Austrians tested the bike somewhere warm.
And somewhere that there was.....sand/dust...ok any road just not in Europe.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:08 PM   #11
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You've pretty much nailed it.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:23 PM   #12
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Take a look at these threads may be some help to you.
I have the Wings heat shields and insulating "cloth" pricey but helps a lot.
Also removed cat.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=972201

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=973000
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:03 PM   #13
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Mine is far too hot for comfort. Pillion is the same. I have the ergo seats but have never had to switch the heater on.
I'm afraid it's a deal breaker for me and the bike is going to be traded.

Really hacked off about it as I love everything else about the bike.
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:19 PM   #14
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I haven't noticed anything with the seat, but if I'm under 20MPH it is hot on my legs. at speed I don't notice anything?
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Old 08-01-2014, 02:45 PM   #15
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It's a 20 problem....

[IMG] photo IMG_0457_zpsc2c73454.jpg[/IMG]
10 for a sheet of self adhesive heat shield off eBay.
And also some plastic card tie wrapped to the frame:-
[IMG] photo IMG_0458_zps2082e4fe.jpg[/IMG]
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