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Old 10-24-2013, 02:33 PM   #196
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Never been there so I don't know, but if that is the case its something maybe if you GoPro'ed it for yourself and not the world to see at least till you are old and don't care anymore because no one will remember what the law was 40 years ago.
Probably so that when the next Darwin Award winner tries it on a GS and the arch falls, this goober can post up his vid and say, "been there done that".
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Old 10-24-2013, 04:45 PM   #197
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Never been there so I don't know, but if that is the case its something maybe if you GoPro'ed it for yourself and not the world to see at least till you are old and don't care anymore because no one will remember what the law was 40 years ago.
It has only been illegal in more recent years if memory serves me correctly. When I first started going to Moab in the 70's, people even drove jeeps across it. It's been on the cover of some of off road mags in the past.
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:23 PM   #198
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Other than the deal that it is illegal for motorized vehicles to be on the arch?

I'm far from innocent from breaking some laws, but why someone would post an illegal act on a public medium is beyond my rational thought process.
Illegal ("destructive") mc vid filmed within a Nat Park, and posted on an mc forum bashing illegal/destructive activity within a State Park.

Classic stuff right there. . . .
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:33 PM   #199
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Well, that's all I need to know. I swear not to watch any reruns of the movie, "White Buffalo".
But that was Bronson's best movie evah!
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:51 PM   #200
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It has only been illegal in more recent years if memory serves me correctly. When I first started going to Moab in the 70's, people even drove jeeps across it. It's been on the cover of some of off road mags in the past.
That's what I was thinking too. I seem to remember bikes riding over it in the mid '90's and with no signage of closure or non-motorized, etc. I also thought I had seen jeeps on it at some point as well.
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:51 PM   #201
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It has only been illegal in more recent years if memory serves me correctly. When I first started going to Moab in the 70's, people even drove jeeps across it. It's been on the cover of some of off road mags in the past.
You are quite correct, but like most things of this nature, no pun intended, they will be a thing of the past if this behavior continues. Then the only way one will be able to enjoy this beauty is on a postcard, after the area's are closed.
Unfortunately, it will continue I'm afraid.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:20 PM   #202
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You are quite correct, but like most things of this nature, no pun intended, they will be a thing of the past if this behavior continues. Then the only way one will be able to enjoy this beauty is on a postcard, after the area's are closed.
Unfortunately, it will continue I'm afraid.
For better or worse, we are heading in that direction. The majority of the co-owners of the public lands live in cities and get their information from Outside magazine and want to keep access limited to people who have the same dreams they have yet will never realize. That is the democratic process. Reality is a bitch or a mistress.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:43 PM   #203
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For better or worse, we are heading in that direction. The majority of the co-owners of the public lands live in cities and get their information from Outside magazine and want to keep access limited to people who have the same dreams they have yet will never realize. That is the democratic process. Reality is a bitch or a mistress.

- - OR - -

Dipshits that think they are 'just a rock' keeps doing stupid crap because we endlessly debate whether or not the punishment is severe enough, while simultaneously locking up millions of people who's only crime was ingesting something into their own body.

We need to decide what our priorities are as a nation. And the prospects are kinda bleak.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:55 PM   #204
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Consider that anyone who has a different opinion than you might not be a dipshit. Should we be inclusive or exclusive and try to be civil in our conversation? Your choice in how you want to influence others. Our activities as riders and users of public lands depends our attitudes and how we discuss this with regard to our own perceived impacts. Maybe you think restrictions in this aspect are more important than how we choose to use our land? We as riders are not on the democratic moral high ground these days. Choose your battles.
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:53 PM   #205
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Consider that anyone who has a different opinion than you might not be a dipshit. Should we be inclusive or exclusive and try to be civil in our conversation? Your choice in how you want to influence others. Our activities as riders and users of public lands depends our attitudes and how we discuss this with regard to our own perceived impacts. Maybe you think restrictions in this aspect are more important than how we choose to use our land? We as riders are not on the democratic moral high ground these days. Choose your battles.
The guys that knocked over the rocks are the dipshits. I'm perfectly fine taking the other side of their argument.
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Old 10-25-2013, 08:31 AM   #206
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The guys that knocked over the rocks are the dipshits. I'm perfectly fine taking the other side of their argument.
Thank you for the clarification. It was not clear how wide of a net you were casting.
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Old 10-25-2013, 08:36 AM   #207
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Thank you for the clarification. It was not clear how wide of a net you were casting.
I'm waiting for the "there are consequences to who you vote for" angle that I'm sure is coming any moment now.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:32 AM   #208
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I'm waiting for the "there are consequences to who you vote for" angle that I'm sure is coming any moment now.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:29 PM   #209
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George Carlin has more to say in this thread than most of us posting here...
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:53 PM   #210
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KLRs on Natioan Monuments

Even the most untrained eye can clearly see that there is an irresponsible rider on a KLR driving over this national monument.

The evidence is irrefutable - KLRs should be banned.

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