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Old 10-21-2014, 07:17 PM   #1
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Is there a "best" naked tourer?

Hey all,

Here is my predicament. Currently I own a 2011 F800R, I love the bike but can't deal with the vibration for longer trips anymore. I've done many 300 mile days, and would like to go longer distances in the future but my body would not agree with it on the 800. The wind doesn't bother me, just completely worn out with the parallel twin. The ergos are perfect just need to find something that vibrates less and some more power wouldn't be unwelcome. So far the cb1000r, fz-09, speed triple and the new gsx 1000 or 750 have caught my eye, but each seem to have their issues as any bike will. Basically I'm looking for a fun bike in the twisties that could be ridden a few thousand miles in relative comfort. I've been leaning more towards the jap bikes for reliability. Any helpful thoughts? I have been googling this for weeks and cant seem to find anything that would point towards the proper bike. Also chose this forum for a hopefully unbiased response and the perspective of riders who have done long distance trips.

Thanks, Matt

Also, rode an s1000r and really liked that but would've preferred to sit a little straighter up like the f800. I haven't had an opportunity to ride an r1200r or r ninet but 16k for a motorcycle at this point seems a little excessive when I consider a brand new fz-09 for 8 or the cb for 10

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Old 10-21-2014, 07:44 PM   #2
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My cousin just got a z1000. It has been much much better on long trips than i thought itd be. Its a really nice riding and good handling bike with good ergos. Not vibey at all. Itll run away from the others ya listed as well. He contemplated an fz09 as well and we both feel the extra dough was well worth it.
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Old 10-21-2014, 07:44 PM   #3
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Old 10-21-2014, 07:46 PM   #4
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Old 10-21-2014, 07:52 PM   #5
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Man, I jumped on here to look at stuff for sale, but then I saw this and thought I'd respond. How bad are the vibrations? I have a 2012 f8r and have about 10k miles on it and have not had it for more than a year and a half, I bought it with 3 miles on it. What Gear/Speed are you cruising around in? I'd reccommend a throttle rocker, I actually jumped on here to see if anyone was selling a cruise control for it, since I am thinking of riding mine to Florida, I've personally never really had an issue riding for long times. I'll do 500 miles and I'd say towards the 400th mile I might get a bit of strain, but nothing severe.
In any case, you'll get much better "vibrationlessness" out of a 4 cylinder, and pretty much none out of a 6, but then you're not really getting a cruiser bike. and the 1200GT/1600GT are nowhere near the price tag of an 800. F800GT is a great bike for cruising, but it's an f800r with fairings on it. You go to a 800GS it's just bouncier and offroady. Going with a bigger bike I think would certainly help, I can't speak much for other manufacturers though, I'm kind of a BMW nut. Just bikes though, cars are made like jelly. Although Triumphs are nice
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Old 10-21-2014, 07:55 PM   #6
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I think I would be waiting for the new FJ-09.



Light, nimble and a triple. The FZ-09 with a more comfortable seating position. The new Versys 1K will be coming to the US next year as well and it looks like a great sport tourer, but I have to think the Yamaha may be the better of the two in the "fun" department just based upon the (assumed) weight.
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Old 10-21-2014, 08:01 PM   #7
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Fz1. Upright position, goes like stink, handles great, smooooth. Lots of used ones out there too.





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I think I would be waiting for the new FJ-09.



Light, nimble and a triple. The FZ-09 with a more comfortable seating position. The new Versys 1K will be coming to the US next year as well and it looks like a great sport tourer, but I have to think the Yamaha may be the better of the two in the "fun" department just based upon the (assumed) weight.
The FZ-09 can tour with a windshield . . . I prefer a little longer wheel base on the open road:

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Old 10-21-2014, 08:15 PM   #9
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tradmark: I have read into the z1000 a little, one review said the cb was a little less buzzy, I know the reviews should be taken with a grain of salt. It's just difficult to get to a dealership and be able to ride anything other than a BMW or Harley.

Roadscum: I agree, just difficult as carpel tunnel has been giving me trouble the past couple years, my hands will probably fall asleep no matter what I ride.

JustKip: that does seem like a great alternative, I'll have to check out some used ones and there is a KTM dealer a half hour from the house hmm..

Simmacus: sorry to hold you up! I was looking at the throttle meister heavy end caps but for me it goes beyond the bars and think I'd still be tired of it. At lower speeds 30-50 around 4-5k its a little buzzy, but once I get up to 75-80 in 6th right around 5k it really annoys me. I also like the BMW's a lot and have had a great experience with my dealer even the bike has left me a little disappointed. I also rode a f800gs, it was not my cup of tea and the buzz from the 800 was still evident to me

Butters: The FJ doesn't look bad although I do prefer the completely naked look. At somepoint I'd like to get a cruiser for a second/ touring bike but for now the next one will have to do.
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The FZ-09 can tour with a windshield . . . I prefer a little longer wheel base on the open road:


That would be the ideal setup!
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Old 10-21-2014, 08:51 PM   #11
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Check out my S1000R ready to tour with Rox Risers and Sargent seat.

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Old 10-21-2014, 08:55 PM   #12
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Check out my S1000R ready to tour with Rox Risers and Sargent seat.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1017894

How much do the rox risers raise the bars? That looks like an awesome setup, far too many choices out there lol
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:04 PM   #13
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The term "naked tourer" seems to me, to have some internal inconsistency
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:11 PM   #14
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The term "naked tourer" seems to me, to have some internal inconsistency
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:22 PM   #15
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Understand what you mean with the f800 BMW parallel twin. Its a course vibration that gets worse as revs rise… Should be no big surprise though, have a look at the comparison tests online. You don't have to go bigger capacity though as a Triumph Street Triple R has good ergo's, lighter weight & more power than the f800R. Test rides are important though as each engine format has a different feel. Someone mentioned the z1000 & the cb1000, both are too buzzy for me (so is the FZ1). But just as with the f800 win some like the feel & some don't so only you can answer your question.
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