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Old 10-23-2013, 05:57 PM   #1
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Eek Standard MAP without O2 sensors and SAS

Hi

I wonder if I can load in my 990 ADV the standard map without these items to return to a lower consumption performance, using tuneECU.

The goal is to increase mileage, Any suggestions?
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:07 PM   #2
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I just started using Tune ECU. There is a box located on the left side to turn off O2, SAI=(SAS) and more. So, I say yes.. Not sure how it would perform..

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Old 10-23-2013, 06:10 PM   #3
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Hi

I wonder if I can load in my 990 ADV the standard map without these items to return to a lower consumption performance, using tuneECU.

The goal is to increase mileage, Any suggestions?

Heya dude, great meeting you in Medellin the other day and a nice scoot you have too

Totally doable with tune ECU, you can put your factory map back in providing you saved it, if you didn't I am sure someone on here will have it.

A few seem to have found the map runs rich through the cruising band so you might be able to look at leaning it through there, there are plenty who have played and come up with good map on here.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:35 PM   #4
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Thanks. I´ll try

Joe Andi!

Nice meeting you and Helen too.

In tuneECU website is the standard map. David in R2R loaded an aftermarket slip ons MAP, so she is drinking gas happily.

Hope you return to Medellin and meet again.

If you want to do another trip through Colombia, from Bogotá maybe to Ibagué, or somewhere else, maybe a little trip in ferry, I can recommend you a route to investigate if you want...
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:47 PM   #5
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Hi

I wonder if I can load in my 990 ADV the standard map without these items to return to a lower consumption performance, using tuneECU.

The goal is to increase mileage, Any suggestions?
You want O2 sensors ON for fuel mileage. Turning them on , in the ack map will increase mileage (they are off by default). Turning them off in the stock map will reduce mileage (they are on by default).

Many find the happy medium to be the ack map with O2 turned on, there is a huge thread about it in this forum, take the time to read it.

SAS has nothing to do with fuel mileage.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:59 PM   #6
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The ackra map is the worst for biffing in fuel when it is not needed so if that what David put in then yeap it will drink.

As SS said have a good read of the thread, the o2's off will help with snatchy throttle coupled with other addition like throttle cam but turning them off will only use minimally more fuel, the main area that the ackra map seem overly rich is in the mid range at crusing so you are unnecessarily using gas.

We are heading south now mate, in El Espinal tonight hitting the desert tomorrow and into Neiva then down to San Augustin to play tourist for a coupla days
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Roger that.

SAS is one of the things people here complain a lot of. So I was thinking that without SAS the bike would ride better

Thanks, anything else I should do to increase mileage without damaging the engine?
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:37 PM   #8
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What about the Secondary butterflies?

If I disable them, would I get better mileage?
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:40 PM   #9
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SAS is one of the things people here complain a lot of. So I was thinking that without SAS the bike would ride better

Thanks, anything else I should do to increase mileage without damaging the engine?
The SAS inducts air into your headers to superheat your catalytic converters but what this does to aftermarket pipes is burn the packing out so bad news really, it does not make a difference to how your bike runs other than it taxes your airbox which does not need taxing.

Best thing to make it run better is o2's off, G400 throttle cam, open filter and pipes and a tuneecu map to suit, no quick fixes anywhere.

If you have the factory airbox you can open up the two side triangles to allow more air and add a DNA or similar filter if you haven't already got one.

These are our triangles with a kitchen scrubby as a prefilter, cheap and easy to replace



What setup do you currently have

Quick question, we are looking to go over to Ibague from El Espinal, worth going?, heading down to Neiva after that so local suggestions welcomed

Cheers dude
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If I disable them, would I get better mileage?
No, they only have a smoothing effect on the throttle, on my 990 SMR I ended up putting them back in as the low action throttle was better with them in.

Ditch them if you want top end accel, some people have had trouble with the stepper motors but if they are working fine leave the second flies in place.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:09 PM   #11
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The SAS inducts air into your headers to superheat your catalytic converters but what this does to aftermarket pipes is burn the packing out so bad news really, it does not make a difference to how your bike runs other than it taxes your airbox which does not need taxing.

Best thing to make it run better is o2's off, G400 throttle cam, open filter and pipes and a tuneecu map to suit, no quick fixes anywhere.

If you have the factory airbox you can open up the two side triangles to allow more air and add a DNA or similar filter if you haven't already got one.

These are our triangles with a kitchen scrubby as a prefilter, cheap and easy to replace



What setup do you currently have

Quick question, we are looking to go over to Ibague from El Espinal, worth going?, heading down to Neiva after that so local suggestions welcomed

Cheers dude
I was there when you made it and installed, pretty cool cheapy filter!!!



Summing up, just turn on the O2 sensor and do 15 min idle
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:26 PM   #12
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Summing up, just turn on the O2 sensor and do 15 min idle
Gezz ya were too .... make sure you don't get as old as me

Yeah cheapy Kiwis know how ta roll the $$$ out, specially on a RTW trip.

O2's won't make a huge difference to overall economy though but yeap everything adds up if you want optimal mileage, never a free lunch with everything, unfortunately if you want HP you pay for that, if you want economy you will give back some HP.

You won't need to do the 15 min idle with the o2's but do it anyway so you have a fresh start and you know where you are at.

Pick a cold day, early morning is best.

BTW, what problem do you have that you wonna cure? (apart from personal ones )
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:33 PM   #13
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Pissed mileage

Before David changed the map, she was doing 60 km per gallon. I want that mileage back because I don't feel the horsepower increasing with the money xpense increase
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:54 AM   #14
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Before David changed the map, she was doing 60 km per gallon. I want that mileage back because I don't feel the horsepower increasing with the money xpense increase
Ok, see where you are going with that, yeap factory map or modded tune ecu map and give her a little more air.
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:00 AM   #15
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Youp Andi!

Who has the metal grid you used to make your ultra high tech side air intakes?

I want to do it myself.

Good ride, fellas!
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