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Old 11-08-2013, 09:06 PM   #76
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Ideally latest model possible, yeah. Pegs I can make bake bigger
you should be able to score a front end on ebay cheap. I've bought spare parts just to have, brakes, CDI, coil really cheap.. I don't think Suzuki has made any changes to the forks since before 2003, except the SM though.. They are sprung light, for a 160 lbs rider.

I get you on the foot pegs The R80 has modified KTM 300 EXC pegs...to damn bad I didn't keep the front end of that bike when paring it out. At that time I never considered an R80
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Old 11-09-2013, 01:37 AM   #77
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what motor indeed!!
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...just saying it would give it the rally look your likely after
what rally look are you after?

Dakar c.1983 or c.2013?



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Old 11-09-2013, 05:53 AM   #78
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I would prefer to ride up and grab em if its all the same to you.. I have a new tack to take with Canadian border guys I want to try out
I forgot to tell you, I was seriously pissed........could you tell?? I was certain it was over, and I wish it had been there instead of a few hours later. Hows your pops?
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Old 11-09-2013, 05:54 AM   #79
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Well, I'm betting if he ends up with a Rooney it'll be a modern look. I'm voting red and white paint scheme ala PD! But you must have corn chips somewhere on the bike.
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:52 AM   #80
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What's your budget?
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:37 AM   #81
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if i'm not mistaken, rmz forks are a direct swap for the drz/dr650 forks. rmz are upside down etc etc...

front ends all over ebay in the 300 dollar range.
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:19 AM   #82
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what rally look are you after?

Dakar c.1983 or c.2013?



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Yes, way closer to 2013 look I think. Infact- I went searching their site for that fairing, with no luck.. I suppose a phone call might take care of that? Or is there somewhere I'm not looking?


Agreed on the red and white.. White or red frame, and possibly white safari tank, but a clear one would be nice for seeing how much fuel is there. A perforated grahics kit would be cool, and maybe might stick to it

Budget? haha, well, as much as it will take, I guess.

My breakdown wassomething like this:

Frame: $3-5K? 3 would be great, I would splurge on the engine. 5 would be a hardship, and the rest of it would be a compromise.

R100 Nycasil engine, dual plugged heads: $2K (I would love to make a 650 into an 850 Rooneystyle, but it is a shit ton of work for two inches, when a relatively stock R100 will do just about as well performance wise, with a boost in longer term reliability. then again, its only money.)

Mikuni Round slides? (2) : $600

Front end, in total: $1200 (forks, wheel, triples, handlebars, controls)

30L petrol tank: $600 fairing? = $?

R1100swingenarm, shaft and ? FD: $5-800? +Trans adaptor, -$2-400?

5 speed trans rebuilt low1high5, $5-800

powerdynamo igniiton and Shoraibattery: ~$1K

Rear hub relaced with 18" rim and offset: $1K

Rear shock: $1K

exhaust?

KTM or Husa seat, and subframe and airfilter: who knows, couple hundred

Rigid LEd lighting: $400

Baja Designs lightkit, switches, relays: $500 (might delete, or just use them for specific parts, like handlebar switches or whatever)


So, whatever iI do it looks like a $15K bike.



Jenna- Dad's doing allright. Wish he were better, and the holidays are going to get worse before better, but it moves forward. :thanks for asking



I need to find out the Suzuk offset, and figure out the available options. Post 2003, you say? Ted, I would certainly definitely entertain the CRF idea. What year are they again, and can you measure or guess at the offset?
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:04 PM   #83
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Drum Vs. disk.... the disk eats up your offset. The drum has the spokes within an inch or so of the FD housing/cover seam, but the disk forces the spokes to be much farther away. That's why the disk bikes (Oilheads) have the swing arm offset to the right in the transmission.

Disc can be done. There's a thread here about it. The spoke lacing offset was pretty radical IIRC.

What gear ratio are you shooting for? I'll start combing the parts bins...
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:10 PM   #84
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Hi Anton! evidentally the 10mm in this case is almost entirely to run a 140 :shrug I want to run a disc, too.

What ratio! good question

Paul really is persuasive.. I mean I really am a sucker :lol He says words like "lighter" and "revvier" and "narrower for racing" and all a sudden I want an 850 again
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:21 PM   #85
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1,200 for the front end....for a DRZ complete front should be way less than that!!!. You'll need new firmer springs and have it reworked by a professional, but you should easily come in under $1,200. I think Pre 2003 doesn't have compression and rebound adjustments only one I believe. But when I bought my DRZ I new it had to be 2003 or later.

I don't have a clue how to measure the off set, but maybe post the question on Thumper talk, they are DRZ freaks overt here.
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:31 PM   #86
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I'm finding stock offset on the DRZ is 18mm.....or 17.37mmm to be exact.
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:26 PM   #87
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for 1200 bucks you can buy a complete rmz motocrosser on a good day, and keep what u want, and part the rest.

300 for a forks and triple, 100-150 for wheel and axle, and 80 for controls.
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:36 PM   #88
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also, any possibilities of using a r100 crank, with shorter lighter rods, (possibly de-stroking the crank to increase quick rev's) and machining the tops of the cylinders off and use pistons with a shorter skirt and a different pin to crown height.

i know its definitely some wildman shit, but you wouldnt have to re machine pushrod tube angles and shit.
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also, any possibilities of using a r100 crank, with shorter lighter rods, (possibly de-stroking the crank to increase quick rev's) and machining the tops of the cylinders off and use pistons with a shorter skirt and a different pin to crown height.

i know its definitely some wildman shit, but you wouldnt have to re machine pushrod tube angles and shit.
creating the 850 is kind of similar.. you just start with a 650 instead of a 100. I am led to believe that with the 650 you start by machining the R100 cylinders down to match the R65 pushrod angles, and get some short pistons like you say. You keep the crank and rods because they are already short. also have to do a bunch of headwork like port sizing and dual plugging but in effect you are talking the same conversion. I wonder if the R65 stuff is lighter to begin with, though?
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for 1200 bucks you can buy a complete rmz motocrosser on a good day, and keep what u want, and part the rest.

300 for a forks and triple, 100-150 for wheel and axle, and 80 for controls.
OK That is good to know. Add a hundred bucks for the .50 springs, and $300 for revalving and whatnot. Now in complete search of a 2003+ unit!!
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