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Old 06-27-2014, 02:43 PM   #2911
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If I stay in line with the bike and lean it over to the point that it loses traction then I am better off hanging off the bike, no? The bike stays more upright and my body acts as a balance for centrifugal force.
I agree that tires are improved. But wouldn't KR et al have been better off doing what MM does now?
The degree to which KR hung off the bike was a step beyond what others were doing at the time. Tire grip and stability improvements have helped riders hang off, and lean further too
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:41 PM   #2912
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Frame acting as its own suspension, also plays a huge role in traction, on modern bikes. Tire edge grip and frame stiffness, are what make the current lean angles possible. Simply comparing different era riders is not really apples to apples.

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Old 06-27-2014, 04:11 PM   #2913
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If I stay in line with the bike and lean it over to the point that it loses traction then I am better off hanging off the bike, no? The bike stays more upright and my body acts as a balance for centrifugal force.
I agree that tires are improved. But wouldn't KR et al have been better off doing what MM does now?
The old bikes had a much longer stretch to the bars, so that old school style was needed to weight the front tire. Schwantz and, especially Doohan, are examples of that.



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Old 06-27-2014, 04:35 PM   #2914
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Old 06-27-2014, 06:11 PM   #2915
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Old 06-27-2014, 06:18 PM   #2916
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Troy, do you tend to weight your inside peg or your outside peg?

TB: pfft, I don't think about any of that shit, I just get on with it.

I am willing to bet Marquez doesn't think about it either.
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Old 06-28-2014, 04:59 AM   #2917
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Old 06-29-2014, 05:55 PM   #2918
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What are the odds now for the Marquez brothers being World Champions in their respective classes???
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:11 AM   #2919
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Now, that is stupd unless Suzuki have big sacks of cash and Cal has decided riding around in the back is fine.




isn't that what he's doing now?
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:18 AM   #2920
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isn't that what he's doing now?

True. Suzuki can do better than CC. I think Cal is stuck at Ducati next year which would be as it should.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:16 AM   #2921
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True. Suzuki can do better than CC. I think Cal is stuck at Ducati next year which would be as it should.
Cal has an opt out clause. Ducati does not.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:40 PM   #2922
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Cal has an opt out clause. Ducati does not.
Yes, Cal can opt out and be stuck sitting at home.

Edit: and I bet Ducati is regretting that they left themselves in that position.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:45 PM   #2923
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Cal has an opt out clause. Ducati does not.
Ducati could buy Crutchlow out of his contract, though. Win-win for Cal, as he gets out of a contract, and gets a truckload of cash to go.
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Old 06-30-2014, 02:02 PM   #2924
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Ducati could buy Crutchlow out of his contract, though. Win-win for Cal, as he gets out of a contract, and gets a truckload of cash to go.
Do you think the situation is really that bad? I am not sure what to make of it .
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Old 06-30-2014, 02:38 PM   #2925
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Do you think the situation is really that bad? I am not sure what to make of it .
Crutchlow is not a nice corporate boy. Speaks his mind and makes the odd joke. Ducati are still too uptight for that kind of nonsense. Results would help, though.
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