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Old 12-03-2013, 03:04 AM   #1
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Rally racegear recommendations

I'd argue the needs of a rally rider are far different to a regular MX or sprint event racer due to the length of time/distance/varied terrain of such rally events and certainly of a higher protection standard than that required by the average adventure rider due to the higher speeds/greater risks experienced. For these reasons I'd prefer to seek advice here in the Racing Forum than down in Equipment.
Can anyone please give a recommendation for a chest core protection system, preferably of hybrid soft/hard protection construction? I have a riding jacket (AXO Stone) that I'm really happy with, feature wise, however I'd like to hear of a chest/back/rib/internal organ protection system that would compliment it. The 661 Core Saver looks about right, or even the Rockgardn Flak Vest. Any experiences, especially crash testing them?
I'm also after a daypack/hydration pack recommendation - something with really decent adjustable shoulder straps, trustworthy zips, no fiddly water bladder pocket (something that's quick and easy to get into for fast refills) and about 25 to 30 litres of storage capacity with 3 litres water capacity. A waist strap isn't a high priority (I'd probably cut it off or not use it anyway), however a chest strap that doesn't garrote the wearer is a must.
I'm getting older (late 40's) so I don't bounce like I used to. The race season ahead will see a lot of deep sand practice leading up to events I want to enter mid and late next year here in Oz. I expect to eat a lot of sand doing it. Your collective advice would be appreciated.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:14 AM   #2
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I use an EVS G6 vest. Pretty comfortable and if I need to I can wear the neck brace with it too.

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Old 12-03-2013, 03:30 AM   #3
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Good point. I forgot the bloody Leatt horse collar (current Adventure model). I'm guessing most chest protectors now would allow for one.
Which reminds me, is there a cover wrap that's made to go onto the pretty uncomfortable Leatt unit, to stop neck chafing?
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:51 AM   #4
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look at all the leatt stuff... the chest protectors are made to fit w/the neck brace, works great... when you mix and match... not so much.....
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Old 12-03-2013, 06:06 AM   #5
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There are really good options out now, it comes down to personal preference of comfort and fit. I live in the south east so cooling is very important to me. I have owned or tried several different models, currently I like the Leatt 3DF stuff. I use the Body Protector model. It is the lightest, best breathing and most comfortable protection system I've used so far. It basically is a thin micro fiber shirt with the armor tucked into pockets. In the summer if it's really hot I wear it with nothing underneath or I wear a thin wicking shirt under it. It can be worn with the Leatt brace and has built in tabs to hold he brace in place.

They now have the AirFift model which sounds like it might cool even better. I'll have to check it out.

There are many good options for hydration too. My recomendation is to look for something that uses the Hydrapak system. It's the eaasiest to fill and clean. Many brands use thier design, Klim, Kriega, BMW etc.
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:02 AM   #6
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I've been using the RallyMax for three years now. If I'm on the bike, the vest is on me. Harescrambling, trials, touring, running to the grocery; under my jacket, over a thin layer. Protection for chest, back, shoulders and a Ribs! Expensive, but way cheaper than hospital bills.
Neck brace compatible
Hydration bladder ready
4 pockets
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:38 PM   #7
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I have a Klim rally jacket with the back spine padding removed. I wear a core saver chest/back armor piece under it. I try to keep my tools and spares on the bike and keep the jacket limited to the camel bag and other lighter items. The jacket offers decent cooling with the vents open.
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Old 12-04-2013, 02:42 AM   #8
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I have the 661 core saver, I like it and have crash tested it quite a few times

I had to cut the top 10 cm or so off the back protector part to work with my leatt brace, they work well together now. I hook the core saver over the bottom of the neck brace and that holds it in place really well, no need for the leatt straps.
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Old 12-04-2013, 07:50 AM   #9
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Leatt make a pressure suit that uses something similar to the D3O armor. Basically it's soft padding until it impacts something, then it gets rigid. I love mine for rally riding. I find it's more comfortable if I wear a long sleeve base layer underneath.
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Old 12-11-2013, 02:35 AM   #10
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Thanks for your help, all. Had a look at all your suggestions. The D30 armour concept sounds interesting. Has anyone used the One Industries Exo Shell Vest? It seems to offer what I'm looking for. Does it fit and move without feeling restrictive?
The Camelbak HAWG seems to be the only option I can come up with for a backpack system with a 3 litre bladder. Any other suggestions there?
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Old 12-11-2013, 02:55 AM   #11
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Here are some links for top of the line kit:

Boots:
http://www.sidisport.com/splash.php?...&id=4&lng_riv=
http://www.gaerne.com/
Protection:
http://www.leatt-brace.com/choose-your-sport/enduro/
Jackets and pants:
http://www.klim.com/shop/index.ssp#/motorcycle/
http://www.ufoplast.com/en/catalog/mx-enduro#
Hydration and luggage:
http://www.kriega.com/tags/off-road
Helemts:
http://airoh.com/helmets/off_road
http://www.ariete.com/en/catalog/offroad/occhiali/


For specialized rally/race kit take a look here:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=824980
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Old 12-11-2013, 07:09 PM   #12
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I've been using the RallyMax for three years now. If I'm on the bike, the vest is on me. Harescrambling, trials, touring, running to the grocery; under my jacket, over a thin layer. Protection for chest, back, shoulders and a Ribs! Expensive, but way cheaper than hospital bills.
Neck brace compatible
Hydration bladder ready
4 pockets
Zipper closure
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I ride with the same vest. Love it !
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:02 AM   #13
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Hey Sundowner,

I was using Alpine Star body Armour and neck brace but after a crash I updated to Leatt. Mind you the Alpine Star Neck brace I'd argue saved my life! It was a high speed crash and thank fully I was wearing both items. I also broke my knee braces on this crash.

Reason I change to Leatt is when I went to replace items it just felt more comfortable and also because Leatt specialize in this stuff my opinion is they probably do it better.

I have a Leatt Body Protector Adventure and also a GPX Pro Lite neck brace and highly recommended them both. I got my riding partner onto it and he is loving them also.

I am using the TCX Pro 2.1 Boots and they are great also/ I upgraded from SIDI boots which were good also but I prefer a removable inner that the TCX has.


Definitely Kreiga for hydration packs. They have a AU website and distributor which are great to deal with.

Also glove's I love the Klim Dakar Gloves. I tried lots of different brands and these are the best.

1 item that I'm over are my POD knee braces. There valcro fastening system is shit. I'm looking at myabe getting Asterisk Ultra Cell braces but not quite sure yet.

Good luck with the racing next year.


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Old 12-12-2013, 06:35 AM   #14
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i wear these too....

http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=5935

really saves your hips, i've used them frequently....

and i wear this under the leatt roost guard....

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...mbar-protector

hard shots to the lower back are bad... i know this...

i'm a gear queer, but .... when you get off hard on the gas in 4th, and you're wearing alotta gear, you say "thank you jeebus", instead of calling the ambulance..... at least more times than if you're not wearing gear.....
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:52 AM   #15
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leatt 3d suit

Just "tested" the leatt 3d armour-not in rallye but during a 24h scooter race-really comfy to wear compared to others and easy with neck brace.
Not too hot in midday qld temps....
Seems a good thing to me
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