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Old 01-30-2014, 07:05 AM   #271
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:31 AM   #272
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I think they sound OK.....

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Old 01-30-2014, 09:47 AM   #273
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I think they sound OK.....

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Kinda sounds like the Porsche endurance cars with a broken header. Not a bad sound but not like the music this racing used to make.
Or it could be too much loud acid rock in the 60s' causing that noise in my head.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:57 AM   #274
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They sound like a Moto 2 bike.


Everyone should get double points but Vettel.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:02 AM   #275
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since we are discussing noise of the ages....

oldie but a goodie

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Old 01-30-2014, 11:11 AM   #276
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not a bad promo

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Old 01-30-2014, 11:58 AM   #277
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Doubt about McLaren rear "Quite a lot of air resistance"

The new McLaren MP4-29 has the designers of the competition concerned. Everyone looked at the photos of the new rear axle. It is now clear: it is absolutely legal. But it is also a trump card, as it appears at first sight?
To make it short: The new McLaren MP4 -29 is legal. The engineers in Woking were just clever. While all the world is still bothered because the new nose rule was reduced to absurdity, McLaren has tricked at the other end of the car.

As the regulations actually looked before the ban on so-called "Beam Wing." This used to be the lower element of the rear wing. He has provided for output, helped the diffuser during suctioning the air and absorbed the flow at the diffuser at the upper rear wing element. A very important part so.


Four wings instead of a "beam wing" McLaren now has four of these "beam wings" in the rear. You stagger to the right and left of the crash structure underneath the rear wing. This is possible because McLaren misused the rear wishbone rear axle. They are disguised as a wing profile. For three rules apply. The width must not exceed the height of more than 3.5 times. A maximum of 10 inches are allowed. And the profile of the wishbone has to be symmetrical as viewed from the side.

McLaren has met all three requirements. The maximum width is achieved, because the surface extends in a wave shape and is bent back like a Flgelflap upwards. To ensure symmetry, also a rump must go down. From the side it looks like a lying T. The concept was approved by the rule keepers already last summer.
Significantly more air resistance At first glance, the troupe technical director Tim Goss has since landed a major coup. The four wing elements give significant output. And the lower level helps the diffuser during suctioning. Nevertheless, the designers of the competition are not one hundred percent convinced.

"The wing is based on quite a lot of air resistance, especially the part that bends downward," says Red Bull chief technical officer Adrian Newey. While this could lead lap time, but increase fuel consumption. Since McLaren would shoot an own goal. , Mercedes team boss Paddy Lowe throws: "McLaren has determined thought something you will have found a way that it works without major disadvantages for them.."
McLaren-wishbone must be heavier

The trick requires an unusual geometry of the rear axle. The rear wishbone does not run at a 90 degree angle to the center line of the car, but spreads far back, so that the control arm extends under the rear wing. He hinged to the rear of the crash structure. The tie rod is located where normally the upper wishbone.
Williams technical director Pat Symonds sees small loss in torsional stiffness and kinematics, which holds but negligible: "The McLaren may have compensated by more mass I suppose that the wishbones are heavier than normal.." The trick is easy to copy? Symonds says yes: "It just is not as perfect as hinbekommen McLaren, because those have designed the whole concept of the car on it."




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Old 01-30-2014, 01:46 PM   #278
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Old 01-30-2014, 02:24 PM   #279
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More on McLaren's "not a beam wing" suspension:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112341

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The interesting thing about this package is that when the car is at higher ride height, these sections will almost completely close the gap at the top of the diffuser, helping it to work at low speed.

At higher speed, because of suspension deflection, a gap will open up between the bottom of the lower blocker and the diffuser, which will reduce drag.

So this makes it a double whammy, giving you more downforce under braking and in slower corners and less drag at high speed.
I'm enjoying what looks like a year of lots of change and shake up, and I even like the sound of the new cars, so far.

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Old 01-30-2014, 02:46 PM   #280
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video Thursday...

not a bad promo



If that's an Official promo did you notice how they screwed up the Schumi Get Well at the end?
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Old 01-30-2014, 02:47 PM   #281
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If that's an Official promo did you notice how they screwed up the Schumi Get Well at the end?
i don't think its official.. but?
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Old 01-30-2014, 03:19 PM   #282
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So all the Renault engines have an ERS problem. And additionally Red Bull have a turbo problem. All they've discovered in this test is that their car won't run. Won't walk, either.
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Old 01-30-2014, 06:21 PM   #283
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since we are discussing noise of the ages....

oldie but a goodie

I'm voting for the late 60's early 70's sound.
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Old 01-30-2014, 07:06 PM   #284
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They should award bonus points for lapping the field, to keep the big gap leaders pushing.
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