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Old 12-18-2013, 07:17 AM   #1
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Trail Bike Recommendation Needed

I'm planning to buy a 400-450 size trail bike for some overnight mountain riding. Older guy. I weigh 230 and would be packing some gear. 30" inseam. I would like to spend no more than $5000. Please recommend a good choice that would fit these needs.

Should have said before. I am in Colorado.

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Old 12-18-2013, 10:33 AM   #2
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Yamaha wr450 sounds like a bike that will fit your needs. Regardless of what you buy the suspension is going to need some work for your weight and what you plan on packing on it for a weekend.
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Old 12-18-2013, 10:46 AM   #3
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KTM 400-450-525-530 EXC, easy to plate. Easy to jump on the road and ride extended road mile to tie trails together. I have done 50-60 miles at 70mph on my 400 EXC.

Perfect off road, dual-sport, trail bike.

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Old 12-18-2013, 11:03 AM   #4
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KTM 400-450-525-530 EXC, easy to plate.
OP did not state his state, so I didn't make the same suggestions.

If he's in CA, it's NOT easy to plate within his budget. He'd need on '07+ or previously plated bike.
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Old 12-18-2013, 12:31 PM   #5
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30" inseam means all those bikes are out the window, unless you spend $500 lowering them.

It's more to the street side and heavier (350 lbs) but the DR650 is hard to beat. You can touch the ground, reliable, cheap, lots of accessories. It needs a bigger tank and a good luggage rack, then you can tour the world.
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Old 12-18-2013, 12:54 PM   #6
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It's not real new or sexy, but a Honda XR 400 might be a good choice. If you want something newer, a CRF 450X.
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Old 12-18-2013, 01:00 PM   #7
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Old 12-18-2013, 01:38 PM   #8
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30" inseam means all those bikes are out the window, unless you spend $500 lowering them.

It's more to the street side and heavier (350 lbs) but the DR650 is hard to beat. You can touch the ground, reliable, cheap, lots of accessories. It needs a bigger tank and a good luggage rack, then you can tour the world.
Not really. I have a 30' inseam and ride a 08 530EXC. Is it a little tall? Sure, but not unmanageably so and only in a few situations. 99% of the time it isn't a problem.
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Old 12-18-2013, 05:45 PM   #9
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I have a 37" inseam, so I don't see how you walk around with those things.
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Old 12-28-2013, 07:45 AM   #10
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I wouldn't sweat it too much, most anything you could end up with will do the job just dandy. Focus on getting something clean and reliable and have fun!

I've trail ridden in colorado, including some pretty long day trips (always went back to the truck or cabin at night so far) on a CR250R (with a big tank and toted extra fuel), XR650R (great option really, bomb proof tank of a bike and not actually that heavy, power similar to a modern 450 but harder to kill and more grunt off the bottom).

In colorado I like to have something that's pretty grunty or fuel injected, otherwise once you go up or down a mountain things get boggy. Bikes I'd look at:

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XR650R: Bulletproof, massive grunt at all RPMs, very simple, so much grunt and generally uncaring motor that it runs great even if carb settings are not perfect, insanely easy to start for a kick start big bore thumper; carb, not street legal without a conversion, a bit dated, 5spd gearbox

XR400R: Also pretty bulletproof, grunty off the bottom, very manageable. carb, not street legal without a conversion, a bit dated, 5spd gearbox, sorta flexy for high speed hammering, a bit inconstant starting--overal harder starting than the 650R as weird as that is.

DRZ400S: Pretty durable, factory street legal, very smooth, slim feel; not a lot of power, heavy, carb'd and get boggy if jetting is off (which it will be for at least part of your ride)

KTM RFS dual sport: Light, great performance, factory street legal; pain to work on, picky about maintenance, don't like to be pushed really hard.

70 degree 'berg: sorta the ultimate RFS--steers better, seems more durable, fuel injected. Very smooth and easy to ride. Probably my top pick. Downsides are that there are a few weird things that need sorted to make the fuel injection totally reliable and the ultra-trick and near-mandatory "70 degree" tanks are now out of production.

WR450F, KLX450F, CRF450F: All awesome performance, all need lots of modding to be street legal and never will be all that great on the street.

TE610: Very reliable, smooth, 6spd gearbox. Sort of like a more polite, smooth, factory street legal XR650R. Would be very high on my list. Just a bit heavy and long-feeling for gnarly, technical off road. Probably the simplest, most practical option.



Something like this is 530 is very commonly available and would do just dandy
http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/4223013539.html
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:06 AM   #11
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[QUOTE=BikePilot;23080964]I wouldn't sweat it too much, most anything you could end up with will do the job just dandy. Focus on getting something clean and reliable and have fun!
In colorado I like to have something that's pretty grunty or fuel injected, otherwise once you go up or down a mountain things get boggy. Bikes I'd look at:


KTM RFS dual sport: Light, great performance, factory street legal; pain to work on, picky about maintenance, don't like to be pushed really hard. <--- ????, Please elaborate....
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:22 AM   #12
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Not really. I have a 30' inseam and ride a 08 530EXC. Is it a little tall? Sure, but not unmanageably so and only in a few situations. 99% of the time it isn't a problem.
I have a 30" inseam as well, ride a KTM450 with no problems. You don't have to be 6ft tall to ride the KTM's but it would help.
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:23 AM   #13
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30" inseam means all those bikes are out the window, unless you spend $500 lowering them.

It's more to the street side and heavier (350 lbs) but the DR650 is hard to beat. You can touch the ground, reliable, cheap, lots of accessories. It needs a bigger tank and a good luggage rack, then you can tour the world.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:54 AM   #14
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KTM 400-450-525-530 EXC, easy to plate. Easy to jump on the road and ride extended road mile to tie trails together. I have done 50-60 miles at 70mph on my 400 EXC.

Perfect off road, dual-sport, trail bike.

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i have a plated 450 xc-w (pretty much the same as an exc). it's an awesome trail bike. and i've done multi-hundred mile road trips on it as well. i actually prefer it over my DRZ for that because of the wide ratio 6-speed.

weighing only 250 lbs (dry) is really nice on long days on technical trails.

it's a great bike for what the OP describes.
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Old 12-29-2013, 03:26 PM   #15
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I have a plated WR450F and love it.

I have a XR650L and love it, for different reasons.
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