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Old 12-25-2013, 09:26 PM   #16
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Read everything you can find about the bike you are researching, from as many sources (magazines, websites, rider forums, etc.) as you are willing to go through.

Whatever is agreed upon most is likely based upon the facts, jack.

Everything else can be factored in with your own filters to draw your picture of whether it is the bike for you.

Never come to depend upon any single source for data and you'll get a better view of the shades of gray between the raves and the rants.

Good luck in your search.
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Old 12-26-2013, 04:49 PM   #17
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They are ALL good...

Just be honest with yourself about what type of riding you want to do and go buy the bike (from any major manufacturer) that fits that. YOU WILL NOT GO WRONG.
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Old 12-27-2013, 08:14 AM   #18
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Honest review? Just ask me! I will tell you why what I have bought is just perfect, the best thing since sliced bread. Don't believe me? See any thread here in the forum, where everyone justifies their choices, justifiably or not.

Seriously, though, here is another vote for MCN. If you do not want to pay for their subscription, too bad: you'll have to deal with other publications, relying on ad support. There is a reason ad-supported enthusiast magazines are very cheap.
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Old 12-27-2013, 08:51 AM   #19
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I'm asking for a lot, looking for some unbiased/honest motorcycle reviews. Bike reviews are far less sanitized than car reviews (from paid automotive journalists) but i'm looking for the whole truth. Reading websites and magazines which run on advertising dollars and can't be honest/negative about a bike aren't a good use of anybody's time. There are some great owners reviews which are always worth a read. Does anybody know of a website or YouTube channel with some focus on honest reviews of motorcycles? Does such a thing exist? Sport, adventure, touring, cruiser, standard, dirt, I love them all!
Thanks,
I hope this is the most appropriate sub-forum.
I do the odd review for canadamotoguide.com - and can say that in my case at least I've never felt I had to write the review to keep the motorcycle distributor happy.

Now generally speaking, I do try to be fair and realize when I'm not liking something because of my personal preferences (For example, is a seating position simply uncomfortable for someone of my size.... or is it generally bad for everyone.) But I'd never gloss over an obvious flaw just to avoid upsetting someone... you have to give an honest opinion.

One factor to keep in mind is that at CMG we generally get the bike for a couple of weeks and really ride the crap out of it... but for some manufacturers and some magazines this may not be the case. You can oly review on what you see and experience... and if you only have the bike for a day you aren't experiencing much about it, and may not be able to spot any flaws. Hard to give a real opinion until you have gotten used to the bike.

If I were personally looking at buying a bike... I would read several professional reviews, then look at owner reviews, then try and take a test ride and get some in person experience based on what others had said.

Because any reviewer can have a different riding style, can half a different body shape (and respond to the bike ergonomics differently than you will) and if they only have a half day to try the bike, and only in stop and go traffic.... they might not have an accurate impression of the machine.

(Except for me... I'm always right of course. Err... anyone buying that?)
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Old 12-27-2013, 08:54 AM   #20
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a test ride would be great, and here in the US, if your buying a Harley, BMW, Ducati or Triumph, or your best friends with the owner of the dealership, you may get one

Motorcycle dealers, especially the Big 4, here in the US, do not allow test rides
Come up to Tytler Cycle (formerly Nick's BMW) in Depere, just south of Green Bay. We do test rides on all the brands we carry, BMW, Victory, Indian and soon to be Ducati. We lead the ride, but make it fun. On a good day I'll get 100 to 150 miles on just leading test rides.

OH,....and 100% on Motorcycle Consumer News for the most direct and honest reviews of bikes.
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Old 12-27-2013, 09:27 AM   #21
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On a good day I'll get 100 to 150 miles on just leading test rides.
doesn't sound like much of a test ride if it follow the leader, I'd wanna test it for MY style of riding
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Old 01-02-2014, 10:29 AM   #22
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No where, because telling riders they don't need a new bike and are better off taking a professionally taught class and doing some track days to get more out of the bike they already have isn't good for the writer, dealer or manufacturer.
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Old 01-02-2014, 09:48 PM   #23
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No where, because telling riders they don't need a new bike and are better off taking a professionally taught class and doing some track days to get more out of the bike they already have isn't good for the writer, dealer or manufacturer.
Actually..... MCN, Cycle World, and most of the British mags, fairly often have articles about choosing the best used bike for a given purpose, and reviews of how the older bikes compare to newer ones. MCN (U.S.) has a used bike price guide every quarter.
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Old 01-03-2014, 05:55 AM   #24
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a test ride would be great, and here in the US, if your buying a Harley, BMW, Ducati or Triumph, or your best friends with the owner of the dealership, you may get one

Motorcycle dealers, especially the Big 4, here in the US, do not allow test rides
There are 3 BMW dealers here in MI, 2 out of 3 always offer test rides (not the one in Canton). That is how they got me to buy that 1600 GTL.
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Old 01-03-2014, 01:04 PM   #25
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I think MCN does a pretty good job, for the reasons given. Bike magazine does a great job if you can find a copy and they happen to test an Adventure or Dual sport bike. The Canadian mag did a good job on the Triumph vs BMW 800gs comparison. The complaints were valid, just the reasons were wrong.

I think the owner comparison on websites like ADV are 90% a waste of time. There are some well rounded comparisons from riders with some experience, but too often it devolves into a "my bike is better than your bike argument" from people who don't have a clue.
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I'm asking for a lot, looking for some unbiased/honest motorcycle reviews. Bike reviews are far less sanitized than car reviews (from paid automotive journalists) but i'm looking for the whole truth. Reading websites and magazines which run on advertising dollars and can't be honest/negative about a bike aren't a good use of anybody's time. There are some great owners reviews which are always worth a read. Does anybody know of a website or YouTube channel with some focus on honest reviews of motorcycles? Does such a thing exist? Sport, adventure, touring, cruiser, standard, dirt, I love them all!
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I hope this is the most appropriate sub-forum.
Check out this Greek guy. He is also a radio DJ.
http://www.youtube.com/user/KOKKINAFEGARIA/videos
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Old 01-03-2014, 04:29 PM   #27
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Check out this Greek guy. He is also a radio DJ.
http://www.youtube.com/user/KOKKINAFEGARIA/videos
That guy is awesome. I love his review of the CB1100 Bol D'or. To paraphrase: "To race this bike you must do three things; Have a faith, kneel down, and say to pray. I know that I will fall down, so please God don't make me to die."
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Old 01-03-2014, 06:23 PM   #28
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There are 3 BMW dealers here in MI, 2 out of 3 always offer test rides (not the one in Canton). That is how they got me to buy that 1600 GTL.
But Canton does do an open house in the spring with the BMW truck full of demo bikes for riders to try, plus catered BBQ and a blues band. Also a German style Oktoberfest lunch in the fall.
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:56 AM   #29
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Check out this Greek guy. He is also a radio DJ.
http://www.youtube.com/user/KOKKINAFEGARIA/videos

OP here, I just like to read and watch reviews, all suggestions especially MCN are very useful. I'm starting the bike dreaming process now as I know eventually I'll need a bike with comfort/range, hopefully both!

Also, I live in Alberta, Canada. It would seem most dealers around here don't do many test rides. Maybe they can sell bikes without them, maybe they pack them so close together in the showroom they have reason to not take them out, maybe they don't prep the bikes and have a perfect excuse. I don't know exactly why, just being funny.


This guy is hilarious! Good find!

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Old 01-04-2014, 03:45 PM   #30
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Pretty much everything you'll read or see on the internet is worthless. It's certainly fun and gets your blood racing when shopping for a new bike, but that's pretty much where it ends. No matter what you read or hear about you'll get on the bike and wonder WTF everyone was praising/complaining about. There's a reason one man's dream bike is another's 6-month mistake.

Your best bet is to find a dealer that lets people test ride their used bikes. Even if it's an older model, you can still get the idea. Then narrow it down between 1-3 bikes, and THEN find a place that rents those bikes and see for yourself.

Even flying out of state to rent the bike you think you want would be worth your time on a $16K bike.
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