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Old 03-07-2014, 08:47 AM   #121
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Making progress, albeit slower than anticipated...

That wiring harness is giving me 'Nam flashbacks...

Great stuff!



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Old 03-07-2014, 02:20 PM   #122
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Wow, what a cool build!
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Old 03-07-2014, 02:56 PM   #123
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Thanks for the complements. I'm glad to be given the opportunity to do something that I really enjoy doing. As soon as this one is completed I get to refine my process and build at least one more... if that one goes well, then there will be another right after than too.....

These throttle bodies are from a 2010 RC8, very good to know that the later model system changed as well as the spacing. I will keep that in mind when hunting for donor parts. I test fitted them to the 990 engine last night and they drop right into the manifolds, and therefore will fit the 950 as well. I _assume_ (and will verify before hand) that the throttle body harness is wired the same between the 990, I don't see a good reason for it to change, but sometimes strange decisions are made between models. I suspect that the injectors are a different rating and therefore will require a different tune to support them.
Interesting, seeing the figures banded about the RC8 seems to get better mpg over the LC8.
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Old 03-07-2014, 03:43 PM   #124
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Awesome work Ken! Thanks for the update and video. It's nice to see my girl coming along.
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Old 03-07-2014, 03:58 PM   #125
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So I was just catching up on the SE is a turd thread and was reminded of a question I meant to ask you Ken. Are you making the headlight an on/off switch?
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Old 03-09-2014, 05:27 PM   #126
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Dan has the SicAss left bar switch on order, will be landing at ADVmachines.com soon so we can include it in the custom wire harness build. Thanks for the reference to a excellent solution to a common desire.... 'ability to turn of lights'. IMO this _should_ be a default on any 'adventure' machine so that the operator can choose as the conditions require.

As promised I have been doing my best to get a few of the _major_ fabrication needs done, all associated with the fuel delivery systems.

The coarse filter is mounted to the left/front engine bracket, then the fuel pump is spaced and bracketed to allow a very tight fit between the two and get them into a area where I felt they belonged.



The process begins creating a pattern



From paper to 6061 T6 alum













Its a tight fit with a bunch of hoses and fittings in a concentrated area.

View from the back of the bracket



Bracket in place and filter and pump securely mounted, with fuel hoses cut and clamped.



The next task is to create a mount/heat shield for the fine filter...... the pattern making process includes skillfully using a hammer of all things.....



using a hammer to mark the forward intake manifold in card stock, this is the result



The card stock pattern is finished and fitted to the engine....



Mount and shield rough cut and ready to be bent




part bent and ready to have the holes cut



'slight' modification of the opening to accept the OEM grommets



Part fits! pretty nice fit too.... This will work for all those other open filter systems out there as a heat shield too.....




Fine filter system set into place.




slight modification of the injector fuel rail nipple allowed me to position the filter body aft to gain a better angle to the output of the fuel pump for the filter.




Nice fit and orgnization of the lines and fittings with a dual purpose mount that will keep the heat off the throttle bodies as well as the filter.

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Old 03-09-2014, 06:18 PM   #127
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Interesting placement. Great work getting it to fit so nicely.
Q. Are you using a regulator and why does the front valve cover have a oil breather and the rear not?
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Old 03-09-2014, 06:24 PM   #128
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Strong work, Ken!

Keep it coming... w/ pics!
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Old 03-09-2014, 07:19 PM   #129
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Interesting placement. Great work getting it to fit so nicely.
Q. Are you using a regulator and why does the front valve cover have a oil breather and the rear not?
Yes, we are using a Cannodale 440 FPR housing with a Eurospec 3.5 bar FPR inserted. Located in the lower right section of this pic



None of the US models have venting on the rear cam cover... however I have seen some high HP setups on custom builds that take a ADV dual vent front cover and link it to the forward cover. With the SE, there is only a single hose that vents to the top of the oil tank, where the ADV has two.
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Old 03-09-2014, 07:36 PM   #130
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fine filter is clamped to the Vee shield



As with any custom build, sometimes the first iteration of a bracket and placement of system is not optimal.... I had to move the fuel pump forward, down and toward the centerline of the frame to clear the low fuel sensor.... so the bracket changed slightly as well as the fasteners....



The high pressure line is now mated to the fitting that attaches to the fine filter and so as it stands right now the fuel system is completed! WOW.... I have to say that its been more work than I anticipated... The FPR is mounted to the right frame rail, just aft of the ECU. The return line runs just to the left of the ECU and has a Quick Disconnect on it that plugs into the upper/center section of the fuel tank.

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Old 03-10-2014, 02:13 PM   #131
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I'm really liking the way the heat shield/fine filter mount turned out. Looking forward to be able to take the tank off with out messing with any wiring or fuel line in the way.
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Old 03-10-2014, 02:47 PM   #132
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I'm really liking the way the heat shield/fine filter mount turned out. Looking forward to be able to take the tank off with out messing with any wiring or fuel line in the way.
As it is right now, you will have one electrical plug to deal with for the low fuel light sensor. Then three QDs, two on the lower tank sections for delivery and one up top for the return. ONE bolt in the back, a little pull out on the sides of the tank and a slight pull back and up and away it comes..... no hose clamps, or hose nipples to mess with... HOWEVER (there is never a perfect solution is there?), the QDs can be grumpy and the o-ring can get caught up in the mating fitting. I put transmission assembly lube on all three of them and it has made the process much better... but with lube, comes 'sticky', and when dust is involved we all know where it likes to stay... :/

I pulled the shield/mount off last night and am in the process of getting it into CAD. The finished part will be laser cut and CNC bent out of .048" Stainless, which is a much better metal for heat rejection than aluminum and will fit under any open filter system with the OEM lower airbox grommets.
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Old 03-10-2014, 04:42 PM   #133
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Admirable work Ken, admire your fussy and perfect approach to doing it right
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:05 PM   #134
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I have a few years under my belt making machines go fast in circles on both dirt and asphalt and win races in nasty conditions. If it isn't built to take a bullet hit, be light while doing it and serviceable in under 5 minutes we were riding in the back of the pack. IMO, it needs to be top notch durable for the conditions that the SE will be in, no system failures.
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:26 PM   #135
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I have a few years under my belt making machines go fast in circles on both dirt and asphalt and win races in nasty conditions. If it isn't built to take a bullet hit, be light while doing it and serviceable in under 5 minutes we were riding in the back of the pack. IMO, it needs to be top notch durable for the conditions that the SE will be in, no system failures.
When are you moving to New Zealand?

As a builder of a very controversial street fighter I took an unreliable bike that caused more grief than an angry mum in law and turned it into a ride-able , reliable bike by doing it properly, I loved the build, in excess of 200 hours of engineering fun

155 kg, 77 RWHP, more torque than a politician ... total hooligan

If you get 5 (after finishing Dans bike or need a coffe break) here is a coupla links or just google Andi Delis Malattia MH900e and hit images

I can appreciate the work you are doing, when back in NZ I will build a street tracker for fun.

http://www.ducatimonster.org/feature...red-nov05.html

http://www.bikeexif.com/ducati-streetfighter
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