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Old 01-19-2014, 08:17 AM   #11851
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I got the point !! Piglet thinks Honda is a turd.

If that is not the point what is????
Bet you got a lot of friends


The turd was the result...nah forget it. Ya need to chill a bit, life's to short to be angry/defensive/offensive, etc all the time
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:18 AM   #11852
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I never made the connection that he was malle moto until now. How hardcore is that?

The guy who rode the most in the 2014 Dakar, and a smile on his face everyday.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:23 AM   #11853
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What I thought was interesting is that HRC really seem to believe in the whole "balls against the wall" strategy. It seems the Bonsai charge really was the team strategy after all.

You can take the Yamakazi out of kamakazi, but you cant take the kamakazi out of Yamazaki it seems.

Love it, because it creates major drama.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:26 AM   #11854
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I dunno. If the fastest guy out there continually drives off acliff, and the second fastest guy continually gets to the finish line ahead of fast guy, the campaign was a failure, eh? But I guess he will never have lived if he didnt try..

"fast" is an fungible term in the dakar context. People are assuming that Barreda is so fast that he "pushes" Coma. Why can't it also be said the Coma is so fast that he pushes Barreda?

If Coma wasn't so fast, Barreda wouldn't have to push so hard.

If Barreda didn't push so hard he might not crash as much.

If Barreda didn't crash so much he would actually be faster.

SO, if Coma wasn't so fast, Barreda would actually be faster. Simple logic


This is the Superbowl. Coma doesn't care about stage victories in Libya, he cares about this. Beat him at this and then claim you are faster. This was a dominating win. He didn't manage the race, he rode so fast that everybody chasing made mistakes.

Its been three years since he won last and he returns against the toughest competition ever and smokes them all. Bravo
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:36 AM   #11855
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:37 AM   #11856
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I never made the connection that he was malle moto until now. How hardcore is that?

The guy who rode the most in the 2014 Dakar, and a smile on his face everyday.
The true definition of a "Dakar Hero".

Can you imagine riding in all the dust and tracks that have been chewed up by the cars and trucks every day?

He should at least get some sponsorship from an air filter company.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:37 AM   #11857
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Jason, I think HRC has nothing else to say except "we won stage wins". They gotta say something positive to the press and for their advertising campaign...


Dentvet...I think what we are all wondering is if BB had a 20 hour lead on the last day, would he still go flat out

I don't think BB is any faster than Coma and other top guys...its his riding style that is a bit hectic which makes it look faster. We see vid of him and everyone is like "holy crap is he fast" but on reality he gains a minute over 300 km on Coma. In contrast, Coma looks like he is taking it easy when in reality he is riding turbo speeds. Smooth and fast versus jerky and fast if that makes sense?
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:40 AM   #11858
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What I thought was interesting is that HRC really seem to believe in the whole "balls against the wall" strategy. It seems the Bonsai charge really was the team strategy after all.

You can take the Yamakazi out of kamakazi, but you cant take the kamakazi out of Yamazaki it seems.

Love it, because it creates major drama.
Yeah it seems a bit of a crazy strategy but it makes for a great spectacle. Only fly in the ointment if it is team policy, how long before Honda bigwigs demand over all wins for their investment? Stage wins (no matter how numerous) will only satisfy them for so long I imagine.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:41 AM   #11859
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:52 AM   #11860
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Looking at Mischa's tracker... was Mike Johnson literally the ONLY US finisher?

I'm sure this is a massive 205.
I *think* the El Martillo Jimco Dodge Durango has a US co-driver, the rest of the team was Mexican, Canadian..... so....yeah, Mike was the only US finisher.... :)
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:59 AM   #11861
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I to would like to thank all involved this year, mods techs, former participates, NooBs and all that added to the color of the firehose , thanks to all

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Old 01-19-2014, 09:00 AM   #11862
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"fast" is an fungible term in the dakar context. People are assuming that Barreda is so fast that he "pushes" Coma. Why can't it also be said the Coma is so fast that he pushes Barreda?

If Coma wasn't so fast, Barreda wouldn't have to push so hard.

If Barreda didn't push so hard he might not crash as much.

If Barreda didn't crash so much he would actually be faster.

SO, if Coma wasn't so fast, Barreda would actually be faster. Simple logic


This is the Superbowl. Coma doesn't care about stage victories in Libya, he cares about this. Beat him at this and then claim you are faster. This was a dominating win. He didn't manage the race, he rode so fast that everybody chasing made mistakes.

Its been three years since he won last and he returns against the toughest competition ever and smokes them all. Bravo
+ 1 - Coma is quick - about as quick as they come. He could be faster, but chooses not to be because he knows the dangers and consequences.

Take any Motorsport - it's always physically possible to go faster, technically possible is another matter and someone capable of doing it another matter still!

Both Coma and Despres ride on the edge, but the right side of it, most times they are there or thereabouts, occasionally bad luck strikes and there is little that can be done and occasionally they get beaten fair and square - but when they do get beaten it's by small margins and by someone who, in a particular event, manages to maintain an effort on the right side of that same edge.

Push it too much or disrespect their speed and it will end in tears - if it could be done quicker over the whole race then they would do it, at this moment in time they can only be beaten at the same game, not one where you try to beat them - well IMHO that is
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:08 AM   #11863
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It still staggers me that HRC didn't grab Despres no matter how much it was going to cost. Completely crazy decision imho.
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:10 AM   #11864
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What I thought was interesting is that HRC really seem to believe in the whole "balls against the wall" strategy. It seems the Bonsai charge really was the team strategy after all.

You can take the Yamakazi out of kamakazi, but you cant take the kamakazi out of Yamazaki it seems.

Love it, because it creates major drama.
Ha ha Neil and we all know the end game there - but seriously, a certain "young man" has been very very fortunate over the last 2 weeks with the number of offs at speed; he seriously needs to have better speed and course management otherwise he may not remain in the one piece necessary to fulfil the potential he undoubtably has.

There are more than enough clichés around regarding winning rally's and in particular the Dakar - he just needs to realise that they are not without substance
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:11 AM   #11865
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