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Old 01-05-2014, 08:44 AM   #1
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Question 950/990 Adv - Buying used - What to look for?

Hi guys! I have been riding lightweight single track bikes for years and am wanting to step into the big boy class and start Adv riding. I am watching craigslist for used 990/950 Adv and am wondering if you all can advise me on what to look for and stay away from. Model years? specific components?

It seems like a lot of the used ones have close to 25,000 miles on them. Should I avoid a 950 or 990 with that kind of mileage??

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Old 01-05-2014, 09:17 AM   #2
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Corrosion is the killer. If the disc screws and front wheel pinch screws are rusty there is a good chance lots of electrical connections are corroding and this gives rise the problems.

Other than that buy the first one of the year/colour you fancy :)
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:19 AM   #3
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Nothing to be worried about if she only has 20k to 40k miles. A properly serviced machine should last at least 90k to even 150K miles. Lots of great info here though http://www.ktm950.info/
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:05 AM   #4
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I don't mean to disrespect but I find comparing a pinch bolt on the front a motorcycle, fully exposed to abuse and environment, to an electrical connector, with completely different composition and protection, to be a bit puzzling.

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Corrosion is the killer. If the disc screws and front wheel pinch screws are rusty there is a good chance lots of electrical connections are corroding and this gives rise the problems.

Other than that buy the first one of the year/colour you fancy :)
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:45 AM   #5
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It seems like a lot of the used ones have close to 25,000 miles on them. Should I avoid a 950 or 990 with that kind of mileage??

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I know a guy who had over 100,000 miles on his 950, and bought a new 990 only because a cage totaled the 950.

In my climate, (rainy Oregon) corrosion has not yet been a problem for my 10 year old 950.
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Old 01-05-2014, 12:12 PM   #6
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I don't mean to disrespect but I find comparing a pinch bolt on the front a motorcycle, fully exposed to abuse and environment, to an electrical connector, with completely different composition and protection, to be a bit puzzling.
That's based on every KTM I have every worked on with electrical problems has also had rusty screws.

Every perfect 5 year old one has no rust on the screws.

Stripped a 5 year old 50,000 mile 950SM down to the frame this afternoon, it was a pleasure to work on as the owner does not ride it in Winter and all the connections pulled apart with ease, all the bolts and screws came straight out, exhaust came off without drama.

A couple of weeks ago I did a service on a 3 year old 990 and it was a nightmare, fan connector green and festered, caliper pins seized, a glovebox screw rusted into the frame, crashbar allen screws rusty and difficult to get an allen screw into....

we have salted roads for 4 or 5 months of the year up here, not sure what it's like where you live?
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Old 01-05-2014, 12:32 PM   #7
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Recent expereince: if the PO has extensive maintenance history (KTM shop or self-serviced) it goes far in showing how the bike was cared for.

I was fortunate in that regard as the seller really knew what he was doing and did almost all of the work (correctly) himself.
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Old 01-05-2014, 01:04 PM   #8
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In my climate, (rainy Oregon) corrosion has not yet been a problem for my 10 year old 950.
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we have salted roads for 4 or 5 months of the year up here, not sure what it's like where you live?
That explains it. Until recently Oregon has had no salt on the roads, and even now it is just being experimented with in certain areas. I can only hope it flunks the experiment.
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:18 PM   #9
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I see your point is based on your experience. Thankfully little to zero salt on the roads here in the Southeastern USA. I also find most folks garage them even thought they ride through winter. Allowing any vehicle to sit outside will do tons of damage throughout.

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That's based on every KTM I have every worked on with electrical problems has also had rusty screws.

Every perfect 5 year old one has no rust on the screws.

Stripped a 5 year old 50,000 mile 950SM down to the frame this afternoon, it was a pleasure to work on as the owner does not ride it in Winter and all the connections pulled apart with ease, all the bolts and screws came straight out, exhaust came off without drama.

A couple of weeks ago I did a service on a 3 year old 990 and it was a nightmare, fan connector green and festered, caliper pins seized, a glovebox screw rusted into the frame, crashbar allen screws rusty and difficult to get an allen screw into....

we have salted roads for 4 or 5 months of the year up here, not sure what it's like where you live?
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:59 PM   #10
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Here's a few I found when I bought my '07 with 40k on the odometer:

1) Water pump seal - Water in the oil & vice-versa: gray jelly on the dip stick; black & gray residue in the coolant overflow.
2) Clutch master cylinder leaking - Fresh mineral oil around the clutch master cylinder plunger
3) Neutral switch seal - Oil accumulation on left side of engine by side stand


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Old 01-06-2014, 08:47 PM   #11
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I am thinking of purchasing a 2004 950 Adventure with 9,500 miles. The bike just had the 6000 mile service done at the dealers. The asking price is $6500.00 US. Is this a fair price the bike is bone stock what should I look for ?
That doesn't seem too bad of a price. There are a few on Craigslist of that year with around 25,000 miles for that same price here in the Northwest US.
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:29 AM   #12
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That doesn't seem too bad of a price. There are a few on Craigslist of that year with around 25,000 miles for that same price here in the Northwest US.
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Old 01-07-2014, 11:56 AM   #13
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Talk to the owner, the more he knows about the bike the better it will be maintained. And just calculate in a few preventive maintenance checks like fresh cooling liquid, brake fluid and oil/valve check. Mine are freshened atleast every year even if it's not needed. Some signs of upcoming problems can show in the coolant and oil, so you're ahead of them instead of stranding with them. It's cheap security and peace of mind.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:17 PM   #14
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Be Patient

Purchased an 08 990 about 18 moths ago. Shopped CL all over the west and found several within a month span. Was working a deal on one in Seattle and it sold. Ended up buying one in Northern CA. 08 990 4500 miles for $8500. included GPS and custom seat. Be willing to fly or drive and ride home you will find a clean bike. Then look me up and lets ride.
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Old 01-07-2014, 01:26 PM   #15
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Thank you all for the input. Patient I will be. If I get a KTM look you up I will...
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