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Old 05-30-2014, 09:00 AM   #196
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Hi Bungholio,

Not sure which shield you have, but we put a new shield on these earlier this year with less of a curve. It pretty well handled any distortion. The early version was very flat. The new has a lip at the bottom that allows a more gentle curve. The new shields will fit all models.

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I just got the new shield from atomic moto and it is great. Much better fit and the anti fog coating seems to be working extremely well.

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Old 05-31-2014, 04:39 PM   #197
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Well after much hope and anticipation I was sorley let down with the fit of the LS2 FF386 modular. The Wife and I drove over 100 miles one way to test fit, and purchase, a new helmet for both of us and was disappointed with the narrow fit for me and the small fit for the Wife. I guess it was worth the trip as we have ruled out the LS2 helmets and decided to go all out with the Schubert helmets.

We were really wanting the LS2's to work out but proper fit is way more important than price in the long run.

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Old 05-31-2014, 07:50 PM   #198
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Well after much hope and anticipation I was sorley let down with the fit of the LS2 FF386 modular. The Wife and I drove over 100 miles one way to test fit, and purchase, a new helmet for both of us and was disappointed with the narrow fit for me and the small fit for the Wife. I guess it was worth the trip as we have ruled out the LS2 helmets and decided to go all out with the Schubert helmets.

We were really wanting the LS2's to work out but proper fit is way more important than price in the long run.

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Sounds like you may have a head shape more round than oval, in which case you may also be disappointed with the way the Schuberth fits (also oval). You might like the Shoei Multitec/Neotec or whatever the current model is now.
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Old 06-01-2014, 06:49 AM   #199
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Sounds like you may have a head shape more round than oval, in which case you may also be disappointed with the way the Schuberth fits (also oval). You might like the Shoei Multitec/Neotec or whatever the current model is now.

No I definitely have a long oval head shape and I have worn a Schuberth Concept for years and it fits perfectly. Stopped by a local BMW shop yesterday that carries Schuberth and tried the C3 XXL and, like my old Concept, fit great. The Wife tried on the C3W (women's) and the fit was near perfect and she really liked the W model interior. My original goal was to not spend so much on a helmet.

With having owned over 100 helmets throughout the years (most racing helmet gear) I have never been able to wear a Shoei, Nolan or AGV, all "round head" shape helmet's or closer to the round on the medium side. I currently have three Arai's that are awesome but the modular is the helmet I wear everyday. Thanks for the input but while considering spending over a thousand dollars on two helmets I have done my homework. I really wish the LS2 would have fit as I could have bought two apiece for the Wife and I and still be money ahead.
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:14 AM   #200
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No I definitely have a long oval head shape and I have worn a Schuberth Concept for years and it fits perfectly. Stopped by a local BMW shop yesterday that carries Schuberth and tried the C3 XXL and, like my old Concept, fit great. The Wife tried on the C3W (women's) and the fit was near perfect and she really liked the W model interior. My original goal was to not spend so much on a helmet.

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My apologies then - perhaps it's something to do with the shell size? I also have an "Arai Head", and rode with a Concept C1 for years until it was damaged in a crash. I also have a Shoei Multitech which never fit me correctly and I rarely wear it. I was going to get a new C3 Pro (which is more oval than the C3 and fit me better, in addition to so other details) when I ran accross the LS2. The LS2 (large) fits me perfectly; better than anything I have ever worn and I have been completely satisfied with it.

I then bought a OF569 - the open face version of the FF386 - and I have had fitment problems with it because it's a round fit. Still like it (in XL) but it's too round and presses on my forehead.

Maybe this points to some kind of qc problem with the way the shells are made.
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Old 06-01-2014, 12:39 PM   #201
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Maybe this points to some kind of qc problem with the way the shells are made.

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Old 06-02-2014, 07:01 AM   #202
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Different fit.

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My apologies then - perhaps it's something to do with the shell size? I also have an "Arai Head", and rode with a Concept C1 for years until it was damaged in a crash. I also have a Shoei Multitech which never fit me correctly and I rarely wear it. I was going to get a new C3 Pro (which is more oval than the C3 and fit me better, in addition to so other details) when I ran accross the LS2. The LS2 (large) fits me perfectly; better than anything I have ever worn and I have been completely satisfied with it.

I then bought a OF569 - the open face version of the FF386 - and I have had fitment problems with it because it's a round fit. Still like it (in XL) but it's too round and presses on my forehead.

Maybe this points to some kind of qc problem with the way the shells are made.
Great thread. It makes a point that helmet fit is as individual as each person's own head shape.

Our different fits are not a QC problem, but rather a design decision to fit a wider variety of riders. All FF386 and FF387 are consistently oval. FF396, FT2, CR1, MX453 Adventure, MX456, MX442, OF583 are all long oval.

OF569 are also oval, but the designer wanted a lower profile, smaller shell and the end result is a helmet where the EPS is slightly shorter front to back. There are a lot of customers who love the fit and wear both the FF386 Modular and the OF569 open face. Others can wear only one or the other. These two helmets are our #1 and #2 best sellers in the U.S.

The overall U.S. market leans more toward long oval, but it's a close race with oval. And within the U.S. market, modular helmet buyers tend to prefer a more oval shape. European riders tend to purchase more oval helmet shapes. The Asian market tends toward round. Still, within each there are many exceptions.

Personally, I'm more comfortable in our long oval shapes. I can wear our Modular and the OF569, but I need a size larger. In that size larger, they still "fit," securely and snugly where they need to, but the size difference allows room for my forehead. It's all a matter of the shape of my head.

MotoBoss, I appreciate the effort you made to try an LS2, and sorry we didn't have what you needed. Interestingly, I've had a lot of Schuberth owners who have purchased an FF386 and love it, but it does again demonstrate that each rider's head is different.

The main point is, just like shoes, not all helmets fit alike and it's important to get one on your head to make sure it fits your personal shape. LS2 builds several shapes to accommodate a wide variety of heads, but there is no one shape that will work for every rider.

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Old 06-02-2014, 07:22 AM   #203
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Fit fine-tuning questions re: MX453

I picked up an MX453 from Atomic Moto earlier this year, and I'm generally really liking the helmet. The materials are a huge step up from the $120-range dual-sport helmets I've been wearing, both in feel and in that it's a fiberglass rather than polycarbonate outer shell. Oh, and I'm loving the long-oval fit..this may be the first helmet I've had that I could wear all day without feeling forehead pressure.

With that said, I'm finding that the cheek pads may be providing a little too much pressure--after a few hours on the bike, I found that I was subconsciously trying to puff out my cheeks to get a little room back. Is my assumption that going up one size (from large to XL) on the cheek pads would give me just a bit more space? I figure it's got to be close, as I can get the helmet on and it feels good and snug initially but then starts feeling a bit tight around the cheeks.

Second, do you have any recommendations for short goggles? My Smith Intake goggles don't quite fit in the eyeport while the helmet is on my head—they end up pushed down just a bit into my nose. I'd love to find something that fit a bit better and that also had a photochomic lens option...being able to ride from sunny open road off into a forest trail and be able to see in both is a very, very nice feature.

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Old 06-02-2014, 11:48 AM   #204
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Atomic has those goggles as well. I have a pair, don't get super dark but are satisfactory with a dirt helmet peak. Progrip is the brand.


EDIT: I just checked AM website and they do not seem to have the progrip goggles any more only the 100% Accuri. Sorry for the misinformation.

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Old 06-03-2014, 03:13 PM   #205
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well, ordered a MX453 and a dark tint shield yesterday, should be here by the weekend. Thanks for the various threads, lots of great info. I really think I'll like the helmet, I'm def a long-oval head and have always had to "modify" my helmets, compressing the lining, to avoid forehead pressure, hopefully this helmet will not need modified!! next week might order the flip up helmet for my girlfriend, she's gonna want a new helmet once she sees mine! just wish the flip up(modular) came in more exciting colors!!
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:25 PM   #206
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Great thread. It makes a point that helmet fit is as individual as each person's own head shape.


MotoBoss, I appreciate the effort you made to try an LS2, and sorry we didn't have what you needed. Interestingly, I've had a lot of Schuberth owners who have purchased an FF386 and love it, but it does again demonstrate that each rider's head is different.

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Thanks Phil, I really liked the LS2 helmet and would have bought it in a heartbeat. The store did not have a 3X for me to try and the 2X was near too small, tight and pressured my forehead. My Wife's problem was the small was an ok fit but we could not get the strap small enough to comfortably lock the clasp securely.

As I stated I would have loved to have bought the helmet's but your right, helmets are as selective as head sizes are . Good product and would not hesitate to recommend to anyone to try.

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Old 06-03-2014, 09:12 PM   #207
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Hi bikerfish,

I'm stoked to hear you ordered an MX453. They are definitely a long oval design, so I'm anxious to hear how it fits your head. Would you keep me posted?

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well, ordered a MX453 and a dark tint shield yesterday, should be here by the weekend. Thanks for the various threads, lots of great info. I really think I'll like the helmet, I'm def a long-oval head and have always had to "modify" my helmets, compressing the lining, to avoid forehead pressure, hopefully this helmet will not need modified!! next week might order the flip up helmet for my girlfriend, she's gonna want a new helmet once she sees mine! just wish the flip up(modular) came in more exciting colors!!
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Old 06-04-2014, 06:41 PM   #208
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w/o an LS2 dealer in a city of more than 4million is kinda,,, how do i put it?

so, i had to go the next route and try on the speed and strength branded LS2 dual sport.

i wear a XXL,,,, i found the long oval to be a good fit, but the chin bar and room in the front of face is small, too small for my liking. must be the shell size cause it really felt like i was squeezing into a too small helmet shell.

looked and felt like a great helmet though.
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:15 PM   #209
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Atomic has those goggles as well. I have a pair, don't get super dark but are satisfactory with a dirt helmet peak. Progrip is the brand.


EDIT: I just checked AM website and they do not seem to have the progrip goggles any more only the 100% Accuri. Sorry for the misinformation.
I did just receive a pair of Progrips with the light-sensitive shield, purchased via Amazon (thank you Prime). They were in the $50 shipped neighborhood, which isn't bad, since I was able to order them with the light-sensitive lens included (most of the other options I've seen required ordering that separately). They seem to fit well in the helmet, but I won't be sure until I get a chance to ride with them Friday or over the weekend.
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Old 06-10-2014, 07:16 PM   #210
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Hi bikerfish,

I'm stoked to hear you ordered an MX453. They are definitely a long oval design, so I'm anxious to hear how it fits your head. Would you keep me posted?

Thanks,
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Phil, got my MX453 today, haven't ridden with it yet, but initial test fit seems great, no pressure on my forehead at all!! Quality seems great, liner, paint, general fit and finish, everything looks great for a helmet of this price. I'll get a chance to ride with it this weekend or sooner and give a report!
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