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Old 02-27-2014, 03:46 AM   #91
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thanks for the replies. now i've got to research verison. verison works in the smokies but att does not.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:08 AM   #92
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thanks for the replies. now i've got to research verison. verison works in the smokies but att does not.
If you mean Verizon. Or VZW... Yes, it work betters in the Smokies. But it too has large dead spots. Most of New Found gap road has no signal between Cherokee and Gatlinburg. There are no cell towers in the park. Just the way it is going to be. A few spots along the Blue Ridge between Cherokee and Asheville are dead too. But it isn't to bad.
I have had VZW for many years and I prefer it. But at this point now, if I were looking at is for a fresh start, I would decide between ATT and VZW based on price. I think ATT would win now as they are catching up. And ATT often as newer phones. They carry the waterproof S4.
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:54 AM   #93
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To the OP's original question, see this article I wrote (pardon some of the typos):

http://www.expeditionportal.com/reso...h-tablets.html

I believe that small tablets will be taking over. This said I've setup an old iphone for my bike lately using Pilo's rally blitz app as my ODO.

I think old, cloogy GPS units are going to be history other than unusual circumstances. Biggest thing is the shitty user interface of these - super confusing and crappy experience. Android will be the most powerful version especially with new tough tablets coming out.

You still need somewhat of a disposable unit so your $400+ phone isn't damaged. Which is why I won't use my iphone 5.
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Old 02-28-2014, 02:12 AM   #94
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did the bar graph confuse you ? 2/3 of people said yes, they are switching to phone based navigation .

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Old 02-28-2014, 02:20 AM   #95
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also, I regularly track rides in fairly deep woods with my phone. my buddies do the same with phone/GPS standalones. overlaying the tracks to compare accuracy later (gpsies/gpxviewer) shows very little variance.

the easiest way to make a phone look like its inaccurate is to change the polling time to 5 minutes, them the track is very jagged, jerky. with reasonable polling times (5sec) it will lay a nice smooth track that anyone can follow easily. single track, double, fireroads, whatever. unless you're doing 115mph in single track with a twelve way split in the trail head coming up, I don't understand the problem.


I used 5 seconds polling on the last track I captured for an upcoming 30+ rider event. over 86 miles of forestry roads and -deleted for safety-, there is one oddity on the track, and it's a waypoint... see if you hold the way point after creating it, this one application allows you to move the waypoint, drag/drop to a new location. in those 86 miles, this was the only problem, and it was user generated.

the only issue I've had with tracking is in heavy cover, ravines, and rock walls.
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Old 02-28-2014, 03:50 AM   #96
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Will phones automatically adjust polling frequency, or is that up to the software used?

Anyone use Waze?
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Old 02-28-2014, 05:44 AM   #97
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Will phones automatically adjust polling frequency, or is that up to the software used?

Anyone use Waze?
you can set it in some applications that do tracking.

just about 1/2 of everyone that likes Facebook likes Waze. it's very popular.
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Old 02-28-2014, 06:08 AM   #98
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Will phones automatically adjust polling frequency, or is that up to the software used?

Anyone use Waze?
I like Waze. My brother drives the LA freeways every day and swears by it. I used it on a visit with him and was impressed by its ability to change the recommended route based on traffic reports from users.

I also used it in Germany when my other Nav apps had problems.
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:37 AM   #99
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Anyone use Waze?
I've been using Waze for a long time... unfortunately, few others around me are so I never get to benefit from crowd sourced traffic reports, for example.

Now that Google owns them, I was hoping it'd get a better but it hasn't. Still no gas stations showing, for example. Tons of map errors that never get fixed despite me reporting them multiple times.
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Old 02-28-2014, 04:32 PM   #100
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If the GPS(receiver) is receiving then the (GPS) satellite is communicating with the GPS(receiver). The direction of information (communication) is from the satellite(transmitter) to the receiver. Same as satellite TV.

Are you a flight attendant? Communication implies a conversation to some people. Some flight attendants want you to put your gps away because they think it "communicates with satellites." It isn't a communication device. There's no security risk to using it on an airplane.
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:55 AM   #101
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I've been using Waze for a long time...
I tried it once, but couldn't get past the cartoonish nature of the app. Maybe, I should give it another try.
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Old 03-02-2014, 08:08 AM   #102
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I tried it once, but couldn't get past the cartoonish nature of the app. Maybe, I should give it another try.
Admittedly, it is very video game-like, but if you are in a metropolitan area with lots of Waze users, the "live" traffic reporting alone is well worth it.
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I tried it once, but couldn't get past the cartoonish nature of the app. Maybe, I should give it another try.
Its saved me from sitting in 5-10 hours of traffic this month alone.

The one thing I still prefer on the Garmin: speed limit postings, crucial info on a bike!
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Old 03-02-2014, 10:10 AM   #104
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Its saved me from sitting in 5-10 hours of traffic this month alone.

The one thing I still prefer on the Garmin: speed limit postings, crucial info on a bike!
sygic and Osmand both do this along with audible alarms if you like
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Osmand is Android only, not iPhone or iPad?
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