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Old 04-29-2015, 11:43 AM   #1
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Using the rear brake with linked brakes

So I learned that you were generally supposed to brake 70% with the front and 30% with the back. My 1190 has linked brakes, so what is the best way to use that rear brake for general street riding?

I'm still in the habit of using both and think that good habits can keep you safer. But by adding my own 30% rear braking is that going to cause issues? Is that added to the linked rear brake force? Is it more likely to reach lock up? If it does reach lockup, do the ABS kick in and reduce braking force to the front and back? If that's the case, using the rear pedal will actually increase emergency braking distance.

I know that many may reply with what they do, but does anyone know how they are designed to work?

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Old 04-29-2015, 12:35 PM   #2
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use them like you normally would. the bike will take care of the rest.
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Old 04-29-2015, 03:54 PM   #3
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use them like you normally would. the bike will take care of the rest.
Also, only 500-600 km on my 1190 but I dont feel they are "very" linked. I use both brakes as I always did.
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Old 04-29-2015, 05:21 PM   #4
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:36 PM   #5
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Roughly 70% of the braking power of any mc is in the front due to weight transfer during braking. This doesn't mean you squeeze st 70 percent full strength and press at 30. You should practice quick stops using both brakes fully without locking either wheel or activating abs. When u need the skill (& you will) it will be there and on your 1190 the computer will do the rest.
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Old 04-30-2015, 02:30 PM   #6
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As far as I'm aware, the brakes are not truly linked on the KTM's.

Just to avoid confusion... The Kawasaki GTR1400 or concours has linked brakes, you can feel the front bind when the rear brake is pressed. On the GTR, the brakes are also switchable between a 70f:30r or 50:50.

Generally ABS are linked, that is they are either on or off, but they don't change the pressure between the front and rear.

And the key to ABS is in the name - Anti-lock Braking System...... Basically if it detects a wheel is locked it releases the brake (independently), once the wheel starts rotating again, it applies the brake again.... It does so at such a rate that any normal human is not quick enough to achieve the same rate.

However, on the KTM, the ABS system is independent between front and back wheels.... For off-road reasons (something, I've heard KTM are quite good at), KTM have decided you can turn the ABS into Off-road mode, which maintains the front ABS (so you deliberately can't lock the front), but enables you to slide the back into corners, watch Chris Burch (who has most probably turned the whole system off), but essentially, when he enters the birm on the 1190r, he slides the rear into the turn, the front is still rotating... The ABS is either off,or he is in off-road mode....

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