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Old 01-19-2014, 04:08 PM   #46
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Hey Dave,

Any chance you boys will be at the Mtl show with it?
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:20 AM   #47
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Great bike, is it going to make any other appearances in southern ontario, other than at the motor show?
I would love to check it out in person
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:30 AM   #48
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I think is is a great bike and should fill a void that is missing in the adventure riding bikes. Ya ya there are better ones but the big bike makers are tell us that bigger is better for adv riding, think not. My 690 with 12L could get 225km or so if I took it easy, so why couldn't a 450 with 17L get around 320km or so? With taking it easy and at 40hp? I agree that the price is high but prob worth every penny. I would buy this over a larger adv type bike any day of the week.
I agree here.

As a beginner (i may be wrong but) I feel there is a whole in the entire market TBH. It seems like in North America, you either get a 250cc or a 650cc+ which pretty much forces you to buy the 250cc and risk it not being enough or get the 650cc and risk it being too muc/too expensive for a new rider.

I truly believe that companies need to bring over the 350cc and/or 450cc bikes from Europe.

Insurance wise a 650cc is much for me as a new rider, but bike wise a feel a 250cc isn't enough bike for what i want. So I am in a tough position, where a 400cc bike would be affordable and enough bike for me to have for years without getting 'bored' or feeling limited on the street.

Looking around at other markets such as Europe and India they get so many more 'smaller' displacement bikes in addition to the big ones, but they make it over here...

I really hope this bike kills in sales and demand, so manufactures see the segment can do well and starts bringing more bikes like it over here.
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Old 01-22-2014, 07:49 AM   #49
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I agree here.

As a beginner (i may be wrong but) I feel there is a whole in the entire market TBH. It seems like in North America, you either get a 250cc or a 650cc+ which pretty much forces you to buy the 250cc and risk it not being enough or get the 650cc and risk it being too muc/too expensive for a new rider.

I truly believe that companies need to bring over the 350cc and/or 450cc bikes from Europe.

Insurance wise a 650cc is much for me as a new rider, but bike wise a feel a 250cc isn't enough bike for what i want. So I am in a tough position, where a 400cc bike would be affordable and enough bike for me to have for years without getting 'bored' or feeling limited on the street.

Looking around at other markets such as Europe and India they get so many more 'smaller' displacement bikes in addition to the big ones, but they make it over here...

I really hope this bike kills in sales and demand, so manufactures see the segment can do well and starts bringing more bikes like it over here.
Not sure what you consider 'affordable', but at 12k, the CCM GP450 is not in my 'affordable' price range. Great looking bike and has all the features I'd like...just not the price I want.
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Old 01-22-2014, 08:43 AM   #50
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Hey Dave,



Any chance you boys will be at the Mtl show with it?

We have not confirmed the Montreal show as of yet. If we go I will let you know

We are in Abbotsford this weekend.

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Old 01-22-2014, 08:57 AM   #51
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I was subscribed to the CCM Adventure thread but it got too insane for me. So I have a question, wide ratio transmission?
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Old 01-22-2014, 11:33 AM   #52
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Not sure what you consider 'affordable', but at 12k, the CCM GP450 is not in my 'affordable' price range. Great looking bike and has all the features I'd like...just not the price I want.

Yeah.. shoot.. I didn't know it was that much :/

Well if it was like 4K less it would fit in perfectly between the 250's and 650's out there now haha
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Old 01-22-2014, 11:53 AM   #53
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I was subscribed to the CCM Adventure thread but it got too insane for me. So I have a question, wide ratio transmission?

I don't have the gearing specs yet. I do know it features a larger capacity oil pan to increase oil change intervals. I will post the specs when I have firm data.
I would assume it has a wide ratio transmission. It has a five speed gearbox.
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Old 01-22-2014, 12:27 PM   #54
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Yeah.. shoot.. I didn't know it was that much :/



Well if it was like 4K less it would fit in perfectly between the 250's and 650's out there now haha

You could have bought a 2010 BMW G450X at $9400 cdn. Go to touratech and buy a rally fairing and rear gas tank for $2800 and it's still won't have the same low center weight.
When you see the bike in the flesh, you will see all the cool farkels and understand the price.

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Old 01-22-2014, 12:46 PM   #55
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Really neat looking bike. CCM has been around for quite a while, and has some Dakar experience of their own. Simon Pavey and his son were doing some testing for CCM recently IIRC.

Looking forward to seeing this in the flesh. $12k seems about right for what it is. I'm in the process of adding a rally fairing, tank, etc. to my KTM 450 and I'll easily have $12k in it, and still have the 500km oil change intervals and piston replacements every year.

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We have not confirmed the Montreal show as of yet. If we go I will let you know

We are in Abbotsford this weekend.

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Aaaahhh! Come on, you need to be in MTL!
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Old 01-22-2014, 01:56 PM   #57
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You could have bought a 2010 BMW G450X at $9400 cdn. Go to touratech and buy a rally fairing and rear gas tank for $2800 and it's still won't have the same low center weight.
When you see the bike in the flesh, you will see all the cool farkels and understand the price.

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Or a NOS TE449/511 (there are a few still kicking around), in my case I am working towards a variation on the picture below over the winter:

2011 TE449: $6,200.00 (Bought in October 2013)
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Bits on TXC 449 being transferred over (skidplate, pipe guard, handguards, PC5 etc.: $ 1250.00

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Old 01-22-2014, 02:18 PM   #58
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:06 PM   #59
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I don't have the gearing specs yet. I do know it features a larger capacity oil pan to increase oil change intervals. I will post the specs when I have firm data.
I would assume it has a wide ratio transmission. It has a five speed gearbox.
Yes it is a wide ratio gear box. From what I've heard, there is no increase in oil capacity, just a detuned motor which only spins 2/3 of the design max. THere was a technical bulletin just added to the main thread in thumpers.
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:06 AM   #60
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Yes it is a wide ratio gear box. From what I've heard, there is no increase in oil capacity, just a detuned motor which only spins 2/3 of the design max. THere was a technical bulletin just added to the main thread in thumpers.
I do not think I would call the BMW spec gear box as "wide" with these ratios: 1st 2.46:1 / 2nd 1.71:1 / 3rd 1.35:1 / 4th 1.04:1 / 5th 0.88:1, 2.80 spread. Tis a shame that a ~12k bike like this does not have a hydro clutch either.
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