ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > The perfect line and other riding myths
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-01-2014, 05:59 PM   #1
Beezer Josh OP
Disgruntled Minion
 
Beezer Josh's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Location: 15.6 miles from the U.S. Capitol
Oddometer: 837
DoD Rider Safety Course requirement

Hey guys, I gained access to work at a DoD facility last week and would like to continue riding to my new job. I spoke to several people who all gave me different answers on the requirements for riding on base. 2 of 3 said I would need to take a rider safety course and one asked if I had taken one before. Does anyone now if the DoD has their own course, or could I use my MSF basic course card from years ago (I found it tonight!) to satisfy this requirement?
Beezer Josh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2014, 06:20 PM   #2
cwadej
Keeper of the truth
 
cwadej's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2008
Location: Arlington, TX
Oddometer: 923
DoD uses MSF courses. Contact the base safety office about the course. If it's a large base, it may be hosted by the command.

PPE requirements will vary greatly by service and base, so again, the base safety office is the best place to start.
__________________
...They will find the streets are guarded by United States Marines!
cwadej is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2014, 07:14 PM   #3
avc8130
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Location: Northern NJ
Oddometer: 1,077
Quote:
Originally Posted by cwadej View Post
DoD uses MSF courses. Contact the base safety office about the course. If it's a large base, it may be hosted by the command.

PPE requirements will vary greatly by service and base, so again, the base safety office is the best place to start.
What this guy said.

I got to take the MSF Advanaced course...DoD paid, they paid me to attend...and I got "continuous learning points" to boot!

Talk about a GREAT day at work. It happens about once in 5 years.

ac
avc8130 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2014, 07:27 PM   #4
dwestly
Refuses to Grow Up!
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
Oddometer: 417
I teach MSF courses under contract for the local base. The requirements for riding on base differ according to installation, command and service. You will need to check with the base or local command safety office. They can give you the requirements. Some bases/commands require you attend upon assignment or reassignment to an installation. In some cases you may be able to present a recent MSF BRC (Basic Rider Course) card and that will suffice. If you ride a sport bike (variously defined by each command or service) then you may also, in addition to the BRC, have to take the MSF's Military Sport Bike Rider Course (MSRC).

The genesis behind this is that a few years ago, the US military saw a huge upswing in military service personnel motorcycle-related deaths. At one point the USMC was losing more soldiers to motorcycle crashes than in combat. These course requirements are designed to lower the crash rates. Recent studies show that the effort is in fact working.

Bottom line: Check with your individual unit/base/command safety office. They will give you the requirements. Also, the course(s) should be free, arranged through the safety office and taught either on-base or off-base at a contracted school. In either case, the instructors will be MSF-accredited RiderCoaches.
__________________
Helmet laws merely delay Darwinism. I fully support an individual's right to be stupid...it eventually makes more room for the rest of us.
2012 R1200GS Rallye Edition, 2013 Ducati Hypermotard SP, 1990 Honda GB500 TT
AMA, IBA, MSTA, BMWMOA, Ducatista, MSF RiderCoach, OEM Demo Team Manager
dwestly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2014, 09:11 AM   #5
Tripped1
Likely Lost.
 
Tripped1's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: Sandy Eggo
Oddometer: 7,366
Varies wildly, ask the pass office what you need to do.

Where I work all you need is basically a lid, eye coverage of some sort, and shoes that cover your ankles.

No MSF requirement and NO fucking stupid vest.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by RottenScummyTroll View Post
Show folks something with a clutch and carburetor, and it's like teaching a baboon to use a Macbook.
Tripped1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2014, 01:02 PM   #6
sdmichael
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Location: San Diego, CA
Oddometer: 303
A fair amount of those USMC that died were from Camp Pendleton and mostly on Palomar Mountain. There should be a CC limit for military personnel. After all, they are, for all intents - government property - and should be restricted. Too many "big boys and big toys" with no sense or brains.
sdmichael is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2014, 01:04 PM   #7
Tripped1
Likely Lost.
 
Tripped1's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: Sandy Eggo
Oddometer: 7,366
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdmichael View Post
A fair amount of those USMC that died were from Camp Pendleton and mostly on Palomar Mountain. There should be a CC limit for military personnel. After all, they are, for all intents - government property - and should be restricted. Too many "big boys and big toys" with no sense or brains.

They would be just as stupid with a CC limit, just in a car instead of a bike.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by RottenScummyTroll View Post
Show folks something with a clutch and carburetor, and it's like teaching a baboon to use a Macbook.
Tripped1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2014, 02:38 PM   #8
Jim Moore
Beastly Adventurer
 
Jim Moore's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Jax, FL
Oddometer: 12,629
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdmichael View Post
A fair amount of those USMC that died were from Camp Pendleton and mostly on Palomar Mountain. There should be a CC limit for military personnel. After all, they are, for all intents - government property - and should be restricted. Too many "big boys and big toys" with no sense or brains.
Hi. Fuck you.
__________________
Jim Moore
Jax, FL

Pay the lady, PirateJohn, you thieving piece of garbage.
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=949341
Jim Moore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2014, 04:16 PM   #9
dolomoto
Destroyer of Motorcycles
 
dolomoto's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Location: Gen. Oglethorpe's 1733 folly
Oddometer: 2,542
There's a discussion on DoD requirements and ancillary issues here.
__________________
Hot, Nasty, Bad-Ass Speed tours: 2008,2010,2014
dolomoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2014, 05:18 PM   #10
JonU
Studly Adventurer
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Location: El Paso, TX
Oddometer: 590
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdmichael View Post
A fair amount of those USMC that died were from Camp Pendleton and mostly on Palomar Mountain. There should be a CC limit for military personnel. After all, they are, for all intents - government property - and should be restricted. Too many "big boys and big toys" with no sense or brains.
I may not be USMC, but I am military and I would have to agree with Jim Moore's statement.
JonU is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2014, 09:19 PM   #11
CopaMundial
Wow, that broke easy
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Location: US, SE PA
Oddometer: 1,006
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdmichael View Post
A fair amount of those USMC that died were from Camp Pendleton and mostly on Palomar Mountain. There should be a CC limit for military personnel. After all, they are, for all intents - government property - and should be restricted. Too many "big boys and big toys" with no sense or brains.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Moore View Post
Hi. Fuck you.
+1. Except for the "Hi" part.
__________________

CopaMundial is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2014, 04:14 AM   #12
majlee_vmi
TK-421
 
majlee_vmi's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Shenandoah Valley of Virginia
Oddometer: 380
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdmichael View Post
A fair amount of those USMC that died were from Camp Pendleton and mostly on Palomar Mountain. There should be a CC limit for military personnel. After all, they are, for all intents - government property - and should be restricted. Too many "big boys and big toys" with no sense or brains.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Moore View Post
Hi. Fuck you.

What Jim Moore said. Fuck you.
__________________
"Yes Janet, life is pretty cheap to those types."
majlee_vmi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2014, 06:08 AM   #13
TrattoRAZ
Adventurer
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Oddometer: 36
+1 for Jim. I'm ok with the "Hi". Nothing wrong with being cordial, even if a there's a difference of opinion.
TrattoRAZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2014, 06:18 AM   #14
UnsureFooting
Beastly Adventurer
 
UnsureFooting's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2011
Location: DFW, Texas
Oddometer: 4,549
We need to bring back the draft. Too many morans with no idea who joins or why, no personal stake in the service, just opinion page BS.

Sent from my handheld universal data mining enabler
UnsureFooting is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2014, 06:44 AM   #15
cakmakli
Made It - Army Retired
 
cakmakli's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Pittsburgh
Oddometer: 328
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Moore View Post
Hi. Fuck you.
Yeah, what Jim said.
cakmakli is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 05:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014