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Old 05-23-2011, 05:10 PM   #31
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:13 PM   #32
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Amended.

Honestly, I got it that others have said he did it - but really, death by innuendo should not be tolerated, even for celebrities and notables.
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the most tested athelete in history? screw the frogs, they're behind the the whole issue in the first place...
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Witch hunt.
And this.

I don't see how anyone who was tested as much as Lance could have been doping and not gotten caught.

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Old 05-23-2011, 05:18 PM   #33
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I think it's a witch hunt as well. He did really damn good the last go 'round at the TDF. He was tested like crazy, and OLD, AND was out of the game a few years. If the old man can still hang pretty good, you know there was a TON of talent involved the whole time.

I know a lot of folks don't like him, but he does do a lot of good with his foundation. I figure that makes up for any lies or doping in the past. LET IT GO. Focus on the guys racing now. Besides, the whole steroids in baseball thing was/is a colossal waste of tax dollars. I don't want to see any more of that!
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:26 PM   #34
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I don't see how anyone who was tested as much as Lance could have been doping and no gotten caught.
That only means you did not watch 60 minutes this Sunday.
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:36 PM   #35
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It means I believe VERY little of the bullshit I see on tv, no matter what the topic is.

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Old 05-23-2011, 05:42 PM   #36
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It means I believe VERY little of the bullshit I see on tv, no matter what the topic is.

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It's only thirteen minutes long. Give it a look.
BTW I have nothing against Lance. I do hate cheaters.

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Old 05-23-2011, 05:45 PM   #37
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I starting doubting Lance 5 years ago a bit when I read Walsh's book, and now it seems like all of the former teammates know the investigation is coming, they've watched some of the baseball players lie and how it all shaked out. They're coming forward - and they all point to Lance now.

The Foundation is huge and only the future will see how this 10 year scandal will affect it.

Cycling and doping have had this tight involvement for decades, I've known old pros and new pros, and hardly any of them ever believed - but there was a time when I really wanted to.

The investigation will likely shake out sometime over the summer, the 2011 Tour will both a catlyst and also a distraction depending on the short outcomes there, but either way, I think we're gonna see the end result of the investigation in the next 6 months.
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:53 PM   #38
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Witch hunt.
Yeah, if we had to jail all the dopers we'd have to throw nearly every pro athlete in the can for one thing or another.
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Old 05-23-2011, 06:00 PM   #39
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Long before Lance got sick, his fellow riders said that he didn't have what it takes to be an A group rider. Then he gets sick. Only to come back unbeatable. Give me a fricken break. He has not been clean for many years.
I use to love competive bike racing. Now it's is just another one of those "sports". If you want to see people giving it their all. Go to a local bike club time trial.
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Old 05-23-2011, 06:04 PM   #40
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Old 05-23-2011, 06:04 PM   #41
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[QUOTE Give it a look.
BTW I have nothing against Lance. I do hate cheaters.

/QUOTE]

Is it cheating if everyone is doing it?
One athlete said he got tired of being passed by inferior riders who doped, so he doped.
I too hate cheaters, liars and sculdugery. But I support Hooliganism.
So, when you play in a game you know is rigged, do you complain when you lose? Or do you play along for a piece of the glory?

Who got hurt? Sponsors...no!
The losers could be the cyclists who will lose their sponsors when viewers stop watching, this will not happen.

It is a Gladiator Sport. Just the other day a guy crashed and died.
I bet viewership will be up for the Tour this summer.

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Old 05-23-2011, 06:49 PM   #42
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It's only thirteen minutes long. Give it a look.
BTW I have nothing against Lance. I do hate cheaters.

So a cheat, who got caught lying about being a cheat, is accusing someone else of cheating. He has no proof. Is writing a book and is on a news show.

Complete lack of credibility.
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check out Walsh's book

why would he 'donate' all that money to the UCI when no other riders do, why did the UCI even accept it, hmmm?
why is Greg Lemond's bike brand, at the height of it's popularity, killed by Trek (in cohoots with Lance allegedly with his stock options) after Lemond went public about Lance's test results?
why did Frankie's wife threaten divorce when she heard what went down in the cancer doctor's past drug screening with Lance?
why did the entire postal team storm up the major climbs setting the pace while 'whistling and laughing' when the other teams fell apart?
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Old 05-23-2011, 07:07 PM   #44
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So a cheat, who got caught lying about being a cheat, is accusing someone else of cheating. He has no proof. Is writing a book and is on a news show.

Complete lack of credibility.
If you say so.
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If you say so.
Ok...so still just that guys "claim" and no proof. Got it.
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