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Old 03-06-2014, 03:57 PM   #91
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Not so far. My spidey senses are pretty sharp.





OK.
Better be damn sharp, you just lost time he didn't...

Two fingers on brakes was what I learned in trials riding in 1971! Fine control of throttle and braking.

I doubt anyone actually covers the clutch and/or brake all the time. I don't. But in/around traffic and in performance riding, including dirt/gravel, I have fingers on the brakes. In gravel it can be vital to slowing and stopping on down hills. You need to brake with both brakes, plus keep the back wheel turning to not lock it and stall the engine. Again, trials training.
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:35 PM   #92
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Better be damn sharp, you just lost time he didn't...

Two fingers on brakes was what I learned in trials riding in 1971! Fine control of throttle and braking.

I doubt anyone actually covers the clutch and/or brake all the time. I don't. But in/around traffic and in performance riding, including dirt/gravel, I have fingers on the brakes. In gravel it can be vital to slowing and stopping on down hills. You need to brake with both brakes, plus keep the back wheel turning to not lock it and stall the engine. Again, trials training.
Trials riding and rolling down empty back highways are two different things, as are decending gravel slopes and negotiating a busy roundabout.

This thread is about people advocating doing exactly that, covering the levers at all times.
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:08 AM   #93
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Trials riding and rolling down empty back highways are two different things, as are decending gravel slopes and negotiating a busy roundabout.

This thread is about people advocating doing exactly that, covering the levers at all times.

No, that wasn't it at all. The topic seems to have question marks in it. Thus inviting opinions and thoughts.

Therefore I expressed my thoughts and some experience gained over the years.

That and the rolling down empty back highways - like Ohio SR164, 555, 646, 536, and 541 - quite often invite two fingers on a brake lever for some brisk fun riding! Real roads with real curves that require real attention.

I take it you have actually done some serious trials riding to have that voice of authority?
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:55 AM   #94
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No, that wasn't it at all. The topic seems to have question marks in it. Thus inviting opinions and thoughts.

Therefore I expressed my thoughts and some experience gained over the years.

That and the rolling down empty back highways - like Ohio SR164, 555, 646, 536, and 541 - quite often invite two fingers on a brake lever for some brisk fun riding! Real roads with real curves that require real attention.

I take it you have actually done some serious trials riding to have that voice of authority?
Looks like you're near the Hocking Hills area?

Up here, we have a big problem with deer. That's another good reason for covering the front brake. I've had a couple of near misses, and a friend hit one and killed it and was hurt as well.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:15 AM   #95
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Looks like you're near the Hocking Hills area?

Up here, we have a big problem with deer. That's another good reason for covering the front brake. I've had a couple of near misses, and a friend hit one and killed it and was hurt as well.
I am near the Hocking Hills, but spent most of my life further east in Ohio. Hundreds of little dirt/gravel roads, thousands of miles. Many were the meandering trails followed by livestock and people working their way around the hills. A lot of fun riding. We can go 150 miles spending at least 50% on dirt/gravel and wouldn't be more than 20 miles from home as the crow flies.

We are discussing doing a dual sport weekend up in the northern half of the lower peninsula. My brother goofed around up there on his dual sport and said there were a lot of back roads up around Pestosky/Cheboygan area. Our grandfather lived on Douglas Lake, just below Mackanaw.
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I am near the Hocking Hills, but spent most of my life further east in Ohio. Hundreds of little dirt/gravel roads, thousands of miles. Many were the meandering trails followed by livestock and people working their way around the hills. A lot of fun riding. We can go 150 miles spending at least 50% on dirt/gravel and wouldn't be more than 20 miles from home as the crow flies.

We are discussing doing a dual sport weekend up in the northern half of the lower peninsula. My brother goofed around up there on his dual sport and said there were a lot of back roads up around Pestosky/Cheboygan area. Our grandfather lived on Douglas Lake, just below Mackanaw.
MI has plenty of unpaved back roads to ride. Go to the Michigan Cycle Conservation Club's website. There's lots of information there:

http://www.cycleconservationclub.org/
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