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Old 02-17-2014, 05:50 PM   #46
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The riders will be broken in to three separate groups by riding skills level, a fast burn group, an intermediate group and a slower group. Each group will have a guide and a sweep rider. The Dual Sport ride will be challenging but not difficult.
seems to me the OP is talking about different routes for different groups, so that they can please everyone...

if that is the case, I am sure the fastburn crew is more interested in trails than roads. YMMV, but I am betting there is a good size group of guys who ride well, ride gnarly stuff, but haven't had any interest in racing - this would be the perfect opportunity to show these guys what they're missing!

of course with "dual sport" being in the title, the slowest group will be streetbikes that look like dirtbikes and a lotta n00bs. no singletrack for you!

easy enuff rite?
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Old 02-17-2014, 06:32 PM   #47
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From the response's I am seeing here, I think it will be best to have more open type of trail leading to the national forest. At this time we are planning on riding about 12 miles of fire break, logging roads inside PMMC that will take us to the National Forest. We may put in at the end of the ride an enduro trail with an alt. route when we get back on club land if anybody want to ride it back to camp.


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seems to me the OP is talking about diffrent routes for different groups, so that they can please everyone...

if that is the case, I am sure the fastburn crew is more interested in trails than roads. YMMV, but I am betting there is a good size group of guys who ride well, ride gnarly stuff, but haven't had any interest in racing - this would be the perfect opportunity to show these guys what they're missing!

of course with "dual sport" being in the title, the slowest group will be streetbikes that look like dirtbikes and a lotta n00bs. no singletrack for you!

easy enuff rite?
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Old 02-17-2014, 06:38 PM   #48
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Thanks Vic for all your help. I am going to send you a PM.
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You guys have a wonderful opportunity to open up that section of Alabama to the DS crowd.

I would strongly recommend a route for the GS size bikes or advertise it is NOT GS friendly. There are a lot of ADV guys who would really enjoy the forest and would not enjoy what Hatch is talking about.

Even then I would not make this all about PMMC and their races but about the state forest. I am really looking forward to just riding the forest roads and enjoying the mountains...

Big items:

1)Food! ADVers love a good food spot. Any change there is a spot in Maplesville...or cater BBQ at the old school house location!
2)Small groups with GPS tracks for all.
3)Separate route for Big Bikes
4)Gas... don't forget about it. More spots the better.
5)Go arounds for sections where even good riders might want to go an easier way.
6)Expect people to be all over the place. Some folks like to get off on their own and just use GPS as a general guide.
7) Do NOT kill folks - this is not a race and will be judged by the fun, food, easy river crossings, and places to take pics.

Just sayin..... you did ask for it you know.
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Old 02-17-2014, 07:18 PM   #49
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Perhaps!

Where ya at?
I am interested in carpool from NE FL as well.

I will pass right through Tallahassee to get there from Jax, so if there is a place to park, maybe some folks from FL could join up there.

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Old 02-17-2014, 07:24 PM   #50
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From the response's I am seeing here, I think it will be best to have more open type of trail leading to the national forest. At this time we are planning on riding about 12 miles of fire break, logging roads inside PMMC that will take us to the National Forest. We may put in at the end of the ride an enduro trail with an alt. route when we get back on club land if anybody want to ride it back to camp.
That sounds like a good plan to me. A singletrack option near the end would allow for some extra fun for those so inclined.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:45 AM   #51
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I am interested in carpool from NE FL as well.

I will pass right through Tallahassee to get there from Jax, so if there is a place to park, maybe some folks from FL could join up there.

I'll be leaving on Friday afternoon after work. Tally is about 3 1/2 hours away from me. If you can figure out a meeting spot, I'm sure I'll have space on the truck.
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:29 AM   #52
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Tuff stuff

Suggestion. Set up a single track route of 10 miles or so for running on Friday or Sunday. People who think they want to ride ST can at any time and get it out of their system. Like me.

It's a shame there isn't a good restraunt handy that could take us in waves. But you have to work with what you have. Coming back to camp will work but you will loose riders who won't go back out.

Still have time to work things out.

Keep in mind you cannot please everybody AND there is no fee so do what you can and don't stress out. All will be fine.

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Good advice from the voice of experience. ^
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:20 AM   #54
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you cannot please everybody AND there is no fee so do what you can and don't stress out. All will be fine.

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Worth quoting twice, this is an awesome idea whatever you guys end up doing!
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I'll be leaving on Friday afternoon after work. Tally is about 3 1/2 hours away from me. If you can figure out a meeting spot, I'm sure I'll have space on the truck.
Good deal - I'll look for a place to park/meet/leave my car.
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:44 AM   #56
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I just wanted to mention the title is dual sport ride. Let's take full advantage of having a tag.
It is a Dual Sport ride and not an Adventure ride. There is a difference!

Make sure we get to climb "HillBilly Hill" and the others!
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:40 AM   #57
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It is a Dual Sport ride and not an Adventure ride. There is a difference!

Make sure we get to climb "HillBilly Hill" and the others!
I'll be on a 450exc & I like single track.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:18 AM   #58
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It is a Dual Sport ride and not an Adventure ride. There is a difference!

Make sure we get to climb "HillBilly Hill" and the others!
I would like to be enlightened on the difference. DS meaning below 650 and Adventure meaning anything above I assume - but are there other differences?

To me the difference is in the amount and difficulty of the trail vs pavement.
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I would like to be enlightened on the difference. DS meaning below 650 and Adventure meaning anything above I assume - but are there other differences?

To me the difference is in the amount and difficulty of the trail vs pavement.
Vic, I would agree with the trail vs pavement. DS meaning you might have to ride some pavement to get between the dirt riding and Adventure meaning you might have to ride some dirt to get between the pavement! To me a DS bike is a dirt bike that you had to tag and an Adventure bike is like a GS or larger bike that you don't mind taking down a dirt road ifn you happen to run out of pavement. Come ride LBL200 and you will see why there is a difference. You put a GS in a mudhole and it don't take long to figure out your in the wrong place with the wrong equipment!
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:26 PM   #60
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single track at the end sounds great. Maybe access to a harescramble loop. Like one of your fun runs. Thanks
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