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Old 02-11-2014, 06:37 AM   #46
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Picking up mine Fri or Sat. Its a 2012 with bags and a Sales Managers bike with a little over 3K. Trading my Wee and not looking back.
Congrats Devil Dog.
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Old 02-11-2014, 07:01 AM   #47
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Quite a few Tenere' folks spend hours personlizing seats, handle bars, swapping windscreens, ECUs, lights. ect. When you add it all up, to get the Tenere' to the level of the off-the-floor BMW would cost thousands in parts not to say anything about downtime and labor.

I doubt that stock BMW bars, seats, windscreens, and not stock or free aux lights are met with universal acclaim.

If one buys a Tenere, and installs the aforementioned accessories and is anywhere close to the OTD price of a GS they've been had by a swindler.

Downtime for a seat, bar, or windscreen is what? Maybe an afternoon if you suck with a wrench. An ECU is at most a week of turnaround and the aux lights don't come on the BMW either so downtime for those is a moot point.
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Old 02-11-2014, 07:07 AM   #48
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I doubt that stock BMW bars, seats, windscreens, and not stock or free aux lights are met with universal acclaim.

If one buys a Tenere, and installs the aforementioned accessories and is anywhere close to the OTD price of a GS they've been had by a swindler.

Downtime for a seat, bar, or windscreen is what? Maybe an afternoon if you suck with a wrench. An ECU is at most a week of turnaround and the aux lights don't come on the BMW either so downtime for those is a moot point.
Oh, they're not. I have about $5000 extra into my 2011 1200GSA because I still did not like it as it comes off the showroom floor.
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Old 02-11-2014, 07:25 AM   #49
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Well there you have it from the Tenere' side of the house. Now go next door and ask the owners of the WC BMW the same thing. I'm sure you will find some Ex-Tenere' riders who have switched and will never look back.
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Old 02-11-2014, 07:36 AM   #50
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Well there you have it from the Tenere' side of the house. Now go next door and ask the owners of the WC BMW the same thing. I'm sure you will find some Ex-Tenere' riders who have switched and will never look back.
Yes, good idea...I'm definitely leaning towards the Super Tenere at this point. I'd wait for the 2014 non-ES model, I think. The articles I've read say it has "more HP and torque", but I wonder how much...and I wonder how the throttle response will be...perhaps the "boring" moniker will be totally gone with the new model?

http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/...MC&catId=94#fb
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Old 02-11-2014, 07:52 AM   #51
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Well there you have it from the Tenere' side of the house. Now go next door and ask the owners of the WC BMW the same thing. I'm sure you will find some Ex-Tenere' riders who have switched and will never look back.
I took your advice and did a quick scroll back from the last few pages on the WC1200 thread.
Bunch of skid plate, crash bar, seat change, $2,500 led light talk, bars and other personalization
conversation. Hmmmm, seems owners of both brands enjoy making it their own.

I think the point being made here was leaving extra spending money in your pocket and not
dealing with broken timing chains, suspension that randomly chooses to collapse and.....
well I think we all have an idea of what I'm taking about. Maybe not the Tenere owners.
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:10 AM   #52
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Its a risk we all take when buying a new bike...yes, people seem to report issues more often with BMWs, Ducatis and KTMs, but that doesn't mean I will have a problem necessarily. Most do not I'm sure...well, pretty sure. Remember, there are many many more BMW GSs out there in the world than the 1200 Super Tenere, so you would expect to see many more posts about issues, wouldn't you? When you read hundreds of posts about problems, it seems scary to us...but you have to put that in the context of what the total population is.
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:23 AM   #53
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[Remember, there are many many more BMW GSs out there in the world than the 1200 Super Tenere, so you would expect to see many more posts about issues, wouldn't you? When you read hundreds of posts about problems, it seems scary to us...but you have to put that in the context of what the total population is.[/QUOTE]

Still doesn't give you warm, fuzzy feelings when starting out on a long journey.
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:28 AM   #54
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Still doesn't give you warm, fuzzy feelings when starting out on a long journey.[/QUOTE]

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Old 02-11-2014, 09:30 AM   #55
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All valid points...BTW has Yamaha been able to restock the depleted supply of oil sumps for the Tenere' yet?
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:50 AM   #56
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All valid points...BTW has Yamaha been able to restock the depleted supply of oil sumps for the Tenere' yet?
Oww.

I based my Tenere purchase a lot on personal riding experience with my BMW
owning riding partners. As mentioned there are more of them on the road.
The ones on the road with me broke. From minor to major. Electrical,
drive line spline stripped, oil window blew out, valve cover broke open
in impact (kind of like a Tenere sump cover) ABS system failure blah
blah, blah.

I can honestly say I've never had major failure on my rising sun bikes.
They may not have the out of the crate level of suspension of some,
or class leading horsepower but they manage to get the job done
with little to no drama.

I admit for what ever reason my Tenere has had rim bending issues.
I would like to chalk it up to some abuse. Others don't seem to be
complaining about it so I'm looking at it as a more isolated incidents.
My last Moab ride had the GS bend a front wheel on a mild section of
trail.

Bottom line is I don't really care what someone chooses to ride. The OP
came here asking for some advice and that's all he will get.
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Old 02-11-2014, 12:45 PM   #57
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Good thread, lots of good stuff in here. I am coming off of a 2007 1200GS and think my next big bike will be a 2014 Tenere. The suspension on the GS was horrible off road, I haven't ridden a Tenere but I think it will suit me better, that tele-lever crap is for the birds.

I own a few Yamaha's and they're great bikes, the Tenere sounds like a low maintenance and reliable bike.

My GS got me quite a few trouble free miles, most recently though the ABS went south costing me $$$. I sold the bike the same week I got it fixed, and the new owner called with some more electrical woes. I hope he gets them sorted out.

I did like the ease of oil changes on the GS. I did not care for the valve adjustment intervals but they were quick and easy.
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:07 PM   #58
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Remember, there are many many more BMW GSs out there in the world than the 1200 Super Tenere, so you would expect to see many more posts about issues, wouldn't you? .
Shall I post up the quantitative actual figures in percentage terms.
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:12 PM   #59
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Shall I post up the quantitative actual figures in percentage terms.
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:16 PM   #60
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Well I could put it in a kindergarten rhyme...

Ten BMW motorbikes sitting at the dealers
Ten BMW motorbikes sitting at the dealers
If one BMW motorocycle....

Will drag on a bit you know..
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