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Old 02-21-2014, 06:12 PM   #46
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Jett, I showed my wife what you wrote. She agrees with everything but took exception to one line. There are some procedures like wisdom teeth extractions and some root canal work that requires technique that comes from experience.
Hi Mike,

That is cool your wife saw my post, I never dreamed an actual dentist would ever get to read that ! I sure did not mean that being a dentist does not require a lot of skill and knowledge, I worded my post poorly on that matter. I mean to say that there are easily enough bright and talented students with really good grades in this country that we could easily double the number of dentists in this country if we wanted. But they just limit the number entering dental and medical school alsoso that there is never any real competition.

I would say your wife's knowledge and skill level are very much on par with my career. I was an airline pilot for 15 years, which takes a LOT of learning, experience, natural skill, and devotion. The difference is, there are enough pilots, so we actually have to work for very little money to start with, and then face intense competition for a job that pays well.

Given much the same education level and natural physical skill required, we do not even get close to the income that A dentist makes. I chose the wrong career !

I do have a question for her, how would I go about finding a good dentist in Mexico ? I am looking also and that is why I jumped in this thread as soon as I saw it. Your English is perfect, are you an American living in Mexico ? I use to fly to Mexico every week, sometimes more, it is an incredibly beautiful country !

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Old 02-21-2014, 07:16 PM   #47
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Jett, I am Canadian, met my wife as an exchange student in Canada.
There are many, many qualified dentists in Mexico. In fact, you can readily find a specialist who will be an expert in exactly the procedure you need.
Most dentists speak some English, some are fluent and have interned or been schooled in the USA or Canada.
Look for graduates of good schools here.
Other pilots, good earning Mexican pilots can certainly recommend a local dentist. Those guys are choosy and will be visiting a quality dentist for themselves and their families. My wife treats a few pilots and their families.
It is a little like accepting contract bids. The highest and the absolute lowest are not always going to work out the best.
The general state of the consultorio (office practice) will be your first impression and first impressions count a lot.
Don't be afraid to talk to some of the veteran Mexican pilots you might meet.
Most of the time, prices will vary, but quality won't, between major urban centers or Pemex oil money towns, for example, and regular smaller cities.
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Old 02-21-2014, 07:24 PM   #48
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JettPilot,
My point was simply an observation. It has nothing to do with any country or location. I just think its terribly subjective for a consumer to make an accurate assessment of any medical professional anywhere. It's buyer beware.
After seeing your query to MikeMike, it appears you are just a perplexed as most medical consumers.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:26 PM   #49
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The costs of dental care in the USA is close to robbery. There's no reason the prices are high.

At my dental clinic, where I go twice a year for teeth cleaning, the cost of my last visit was $145. I've asked my friends what they've been charged. It varies between $50 and $85. I've even seen advertisement for $30. However they are always glad to see me turn up. Big smiles all round.

Although I presently have no dental problems, I'm also in the market for a better deal.
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:39 PM   #50
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Those numbers are spot on.
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Old 02-22-2014, 06:30 AM   #51
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Cleaning here is 500 pesos, at a good office. If you have a DIF card, a seniors card for +60 crowd then a cleaning is 50 pesos.
The card is available free to both nationals and expats, also reduced rates for other procedures.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:32 AM   #52
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Thanks for the reply KIKO. Now I really feel taken advantage of.

This is a great thread.
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Old 02-22-2014, 04:07 PM   #53
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Tony, try the following guy. He was VERY helpful to me and his rates are much lower than what you are considering. A 6 month policy for me was quoted at $253 and a full year at $292. This is an American company in Tucson, AZ who sells policies through authorized Mexican Insurance companies.

MotorMexico.com
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When I was at the my border crossing the insurance guy quoted me $380 for 30 day insurance for the bike. I need to find a place in Monterrey to buy some. I understand that it is a big offense to not have it when you have an accident or violation. Anyone have any suggestions in this area?
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Old 02-22-2014, 04:46 PM   #54
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Tony, not to be too personal but what kind of dental work
are you looking to have done and how much would it have cost to get it done in the US? Just curious. I plan to be in Mexico in a little over a month and might get a crown and a few other things done myself but that's small stuff compared to what you are apparently looking to have done.

Also, please do let us know who you pick as a dentist and why and what the cost will be compared to a back home figure.

Dental work in America has just gotten friggin unbelievably high. If I can get some competent dental work done while there on vacation I'd like to do so.

Also, how about sharing your thoughts on the issue of traveling safely in Mexico on a bike.

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Hi Cal
I plan to cross the border at Reynosa. One of the inmates recommended a dentist there, said he was a good friend. I plan to start with a quote from him and if I like the proposal, I will get fixed up there. If the quote is unreasonable I have referrals in Nogales and one south of Yuma where John Downs went with his sister.
After the dental work is done I want to wander down the coast to explore the beaches if the weather is good.
Thanks for asking
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Old 02-22-2014, 04:48 PM   #55
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What is a DIF card and how does an American get one?

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Cleaning here is 500 pesos, at a good office. If you have a DIF card, a seniors card for +60 crowd then a cleaning is 50 pesos.
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Old 02-22-2014, 04:56 PM   #56
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Here my experience with a dentist in Mexico.

Just want to share my experience with a Mexican dentist. The dentist part starts at 43 seconds of the video. Enjoy.

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Old 02-22-2014, 07:08 PM   #57
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What is a DIF card and how does an American get one?
The different states in Mexico each have different social programs available for seniors who have residence in Mexico. For an expat, you may need to produce a temporal visa, I do not know if the FMM is allowed. Also a bill from the phone company or electric company, copy of your passport, and a couple of photos in infantil size, and your blood type. Some applicants present the invoices that are in someone else's name and simply state that they are renters. Like most things in Mexico the answer is "Depende."

The DIF card is for the state of Jalisco. It provides a variety of benefits for persons 60 years and older. Discounts up to 50% on your city water bill, property taxes, prescriptions, dental care, bus fares local and statewide, etc. Some doctors accept the card also and a variety of businesses. The only time I have used my card was for medical tests. A blood test I need once a year cost me $450 in the US, the same test here with my DIF card at a ISO lab was about $60.00. My doc in the US complained some at first but finally accepted the blood work from the Mexico lab.

Here is a link with more info: http://www.accesslakechapala.com/201...ds-in-chapala/

The federal seniors card is Inapam. That gets you additional discounts outside of your resident state. For example the bus lines set aside something like 10 seats on each bus for seniors. If I were to take a luxury bus like ETN from Guadalajara to Laredo, my cost without the card is about $150.00 one way, with the Inapam card it is $75.00.

Here is a link on the Inapam card:
http://www.mexperience.com/blog/?p=3058

National healthcare is also available to expats.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:55 AM   #58
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Just my 2 cents,,, I went to Washington Dental Clinic in Juarez, just across from El Paso, you call them and they will get you in the next day if you want, tell them what motel you are staying at in El Paso and they will send a van to come pick you up and when you're done they bring you back.
Your insurance will work as well, they have very modern facilities and treat you like a king as well..! Loved the work they did for me !
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:14 AM   #59
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Vic5491 said
"Tony, not to be too personal but what kind of dental work
are you looking to have done and how much would it have cost to get it done in the US? Just curious. I plan to be in Mexico in a little over a month and might get a crown and a few other things done myself but that's small stuff compared to what you are apparently looking to have done."
Hi Vic. I am getting 12 teeth pulled and getting partials. We started yesterday and will pull the rest tomorrow. I have to come back in 2 months and get the impressions for the partials. I love to ride but I may decide to get a bigger, faster scooter. I have been lusting over the BMW C 650Gt for many months. After we finished the dental work Geraldo suggested a ride up into the hills. The scenery was spectacular. It varied from Mexican Flea Markets to beautiful mountains with narrow passes and 3 river crossings. Mind you I am on a Yamaha Majesty which is not an off road bike but it made even the 12" deep crossing like a champ. I am really enjoying Mexico and this trip. To be continued Tony
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:54 AM   #60
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Mexican dental care is a big no!!!!

I hope going to Mexico for affordable dental care is a joke? Itís not safe to drink the water there; do you think they practice infection control? You could easily come back with AIDS or HEPATITIS! Just how many times has that needle been reused? Who did you share that carpule of anesthetic with? A big part of USA health care cost is infection control that Mexican facilities donít have to do. There are no infection control guidelines that must be followed or inspections to pass. Just where do out dated medicines go to be resold, Mexico. Did the so called dentist you are seeing actually go to school and pass board exams or did they just do on the job training? Those on the wall certificates can be printed anywhere. If youíre doing a long road trip on a bike or whatever, DONíT leave home without clean bill of medical and dental health. Itís ironic that those people in Mexico that can, come to the US for dental care because Mexican care is bad.
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