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Old 02-18-2014, 03:40 PM   #1
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Disclaimer: The purpose of this thread is to plan a motorcycle trip.....

Any of you guys hear about this deal?

The Department of Homeland Security is set to activate a national license plate tracking system that will be shared with law enforcement, allowing DHS officers to take photos of any license plate using their smartphone and upload it to a database which will include a “hot list” of “target vehicles”.

http://www.infowars.com/homeland-sec...tion-database/


Personally, I've been getting a little fed up with the notion of being surveilled by my government even though I'm a fine upstanding law-abiding citizen. Phone calls being tracked/recorded, internet use being tracked/recorded, and now movements being tracked/recorded.

I've been joking with the wife recently that I was going to take off on my dirtbike with nothing but a wad of cash in my pocket and travel around the state "off-the-grid" just as my own little personal protest to all the tracking that takes place these days. Now with this latest license plate deal, I'm giving it some serious consideration.

I think getting around on dirt roads without running through any surveilled intersections would be easy enough, as would gassing up at remote stations and paying cash, maybe a little mud would accidentally obscure part of the license plate, but what about lodging? Do campgrounds or hotels take cash on the spot without an ID or reservation these days? Would I be limited to camping in the woods (not a fan of sleeping on the ground).

Anyone else interested in an off-the-grid trip? Or are most of you guys going to be placing me on your ignore lists because I've clearly lost my marbles?


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Old 02-18-2014, 03:46 PM   #2
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lighting systems that double as surveillance hubs which can record conversations.
how is this not a violation of our rights?
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Old 02-18-2014, 03:48 PM   #3
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Old 02-18-2014, 03:52 PM   #4
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Old 02-18-2014, 03:54 PM   #5
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:18 PM   #6
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Similar things have already been around the US for quite some time. From 7 years ago:



Do you think they've been idle in the past 7 years? According to Moore's Law, they have increased the speed of these systems by 4-5X since then.

The UK has facial recognition cameras everywhere.
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:30 PM   #7
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Similar things have already been around the US for quite some time. From 7 years ago:



Do you think they've been idle in the past 7 years? According to Moore's Law, they have increased the speed of these systems by 4-5X since then.

The UK has facial recognition cameras everywhere.
I've even seen those automatic plate readers here in backwards-ass Pueblo, I bet they have them all over the place.

I think that's a great idea for a ride, but you need to do something to get the authorities interested in you first so we can see how good you did at staying off the radar.
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:43 PM   #8
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I think that's a great idea for a ride, but you need to do something to get the authorities interested in you first so we can see how good you did at staying off the radar.
The way things are headed, just posting this thread is probably enough to get me "flagged".
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For every Law Enforcement Plate reader you see there are 5-10x that many owned by private companies being used for everything from parking enforcement to marketing research. They have been very active for years making money by tracking your habits based on where you drive.........


The phrase Big Brother is getting more and more blurred between the feds and companies such as Google. FWIW
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:14 PM   #10
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yeah, I'm gonna stick to riding my dirtbike in remote places and little time in towns. Like I do anyway!
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The way things are headed, just posting this thread is probably enough to get me "flagged".
Key words: centrifuge, plutonium, IED, al quada, Taliban, Iran, NRA, Afganistan, high capacity magazines .....

If it wasn't before, it is now.
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Pros and cons of continually advancing technology.
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:10 PM   #13
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Key words: centrifuge, plutonium, IED, al quada, Taliban, Iran, NRA, Afganistan, high capacity magazines .....

If it wasn't before, it is now.
You forgot freedom and liberty.


Seriously though, are there any hotels that take cash up front if you "forgot" your ID? I pay for everything with plastic, and make reservations ahead of time no matter what, so I really don't know. I think the last hotel I stayed in without a reservation was the H Motel in Fruita round about 1995? This is probably going to involve some camping, huh.
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:11 PM   #14
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Pros and cons of continually advancing technology.
As far as I'm concerned, it's been mostly cons since about 1970.

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Disclaimer: The purpose of this thread is to plan a motorcycle trip.....

Any of you guys hear about this deal?

The Department of Homeland Security is set to activate a national license plate tracking system that will be shared with law enforcement, allowing DHS officers to take photos of any license plate using their smartphone and upload it to a database which will include a “hot list” of “target vehicles”.

http://www.infowars.com/homeland-sec...tion-database/


Personally, I've been getting a little fed up with the notion of being surveilled by my government even though I'm a fine upstanding law-abiding citizen. Phone calls being tracked/recorded, internet use being tracked/recorded, and now movements being tracked/recorded.

I've been joking with the wife recently that I was going to take off on my dirtbike with nothing but a wad of cash in my pocket and travel around the state "off-the-grid" just as my own little personal protest to all the tracking that takes place these days. Now with this latest license plate deal, I'm giving it some serious consideration.

I think getting around on dirt roads without running through any surveilled intersections would be easy enough, as would gassing up at remote stations and paying cash, maybe a little mud would accidentally obscure part of the license plate, but what about lodging? Do campgrounds or hotels take cash on the spot without an ID or reservation these days? Would I be limited to camping in the woods (not a fan of sleeping on the ground).

Anyone else interested in an off-the-grid trip? Or are most of you guys going to be placing me on your ignore lists because I've clearly lost my marbles?


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