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Old 02-18-2014, 06:15 PM   #16
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I'd lose the tin foil hat!

That shiny hat is only gonna make it easier for those aerial spy cameras to find you _CJ....
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:30 PM   #17
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Pretty sure that as part of the Unpatriot Act, hotels and motels are required to see ID, I had trouble once because I actually did forget my wallet when working out of town, but there are places where they will look the other way with cash, I assume the desk clerk pockets it, maybe the maid gets a cut, too. Or the owner doesn't have to pay taxes on it, depending.
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:33 PM   #18
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Post 9/11 the number of gov't organizations that have sprung up and been granted police like powers is amazing. In reality the terror they protect everyone from is the terror of free thought and action. It is amazing to think about the number of organizations and the number of people they employ and the amount of tax dollars this swallows.

United States Department of Justice (DOJ) - Includes

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF)
Drug Enforcement Administration (since 1973)
Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs (1968–73)
Federal Bureau of Narcotics (1930–68)
Bureau of Prohibition (1927–33)
Bureau of Drug Abuse Control (1966–68)
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP)
United States Marshals Service (USMS)

United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) - includes

Federal Protective Service (FPS)
U.S. Coast Guard (USCG)
Coast Guard Police (CGPD)
Coast Guard Investigative Service (CGIS)
U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP)
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
U.S. Secret Service (USSS)

And don't forget about the million plus police and sheriff types.

I'm sure there are a few dozen other armed law enforcement type organizations that are working hard to ensure they have a piece of your tax dollars and ensure no one gets to uppity.

It isn't quite as bad here in Canada but then we're more polite and easy going and have a naive faith in big gov't.

It's funny how big corporations get into the prison business and then lobby gov't to change or enact laws that result in more criminals and more criminals doing longer stints in their jails, which effects the profitability of the jail. Also interesting that the people (police) who depend on gov't funding also control a key revenue source such as fines for everything from parking tickets to speeding and so on. This ability also can be translated into crime stats, stop more people and write more tickets equals more revenue AND statistically demonstrates that there is more crime and thus the self licking lollipop of justifying their ever increasing budgets becomes easier.

Aw gawd my head is getting hot from the radars being directed onto my house.
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:39 PM   #19
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I have sharks with laser beams on their heads, does that count?
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:55 PM   #20
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Dirt bikes get dirty.

Get the right parts covered in mud & ride free!
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Old 02-18-2014, 07:09 PM   #21
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There's big huge poles with tiny little camera domes on them (nothing else) about every 2 miles on I-25, other funky little sensors that don't look like optics too. I'm not talking about the obvious pre-pass things but similar. They are on most other roads too especially at county borders.

Do it. Run around all over the state with no plate.



P.S. Even the most backwoods fuel/food stops are going to have some kind of surveillance system, have you priced the low end lately? One good dine-n-dash is worth 2 adequate cameras and storage.
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Old 02-18-2014, 07:24 PM   #22
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I'm in.
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It really sucks that those crazy fucks with the hats were right all along.
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Old 02-18-2014, 07:37 PM   #23
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I have sharks with laser beams on their heads, does that count?
I had to settle for ill-tempered sea bass.
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Old 02-19-2014, 01:29 AM   #24
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Dirt bikes get dirty.

Get the right parts covered in mud & ride free!
I'd be up for throwing mud all over my plate and going up and down 470 a few times.
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:20 AM   #25
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All of this, and yet my biggest worry is when I see a cop if he is going to turn around and nail me for going 10 over.
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Old 02-19-2014, 04:56 AM   #26
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I'm in just, need to go get a roll of aluminum foil with cash :0)
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:40 AM   #27
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Key words: centrifuge, plutonium, IED, al quada, Taliban, Iran, NRA, Afganistan, high capacity magazines .....

If it wasn't before, it is now.
I use this to generate NSA trigger words.

http://www.bugbrother.com/echelon/sp...generator.html

I send stuff from one of my email accounts to another. It is my small protest. I would rather live in a World with Terrorists than tolerate a government that would spy on it's citizens

EXAMPLE:

From: mfa@smip.sv.gov.yu
To: linda.krabbenhoft@dfas.mil
Subj: NAJVECI TAJNITAJNI (TOP SECRET - Croatia)

Dennis Richardson, Director-General of Security, Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO), told Ukraine's Security Service (Sluzhba Bespeky Ukrayiny - SBU) about the Emirats frenchelon station : a biological weapon scientist sent UKUSA (United Kingdom - USA Security Agreement)`s ultra confidential encrypted documents to Armed Islamic Group (GIA) !

Ask JMIC (Joint Military Intelligence College)`s contact of Microsoft greed & sadness & unhappiness Dpt via http://www.dtic.mil/ for Ref. TELINTNRO, GRU, SRIDRM, DST, SDF, CANUSEYESONLY, CANUKUS, AUSCANUKUS, C4I, C3I.



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Old 02-19-2014, 06:16 AM   #28
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P.S. Even the most backwoods fuel/food stops are going to have some kind of surveillance system
Private property owners setting up surveillance systems on their own property is not a problem. I support their right to do so. The problem is when our government starts setting up cameras in public spaces (and tapping into private systems on private property), and uses super-computers to create virtual living profiles of law abiding citizens by compiling data from cameras, and telephones, and computers.

Maybe it's my age, maybe it's because I was raised by a man who fought in WWII, but I have a real problem with being treated as a subject of a ruler's kingdom when we are supposed to be participants in a free society. I wouldn't be surprised if in my lifetime technology advances to the point that people are required to carry an ID with real time GPS tracking, and people being okay with that. Part of the idea behind this ride is to travel freely while we still can, so someday I can tell stories to kids about how we used to leave our houses and go where we wanted and do as we pleased without anyone knowing about it unless we chose to tell them.
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:00 AM   #29
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I had to settle for ill-tempered sea bass.
Couldn't afford the mutated ones?
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:09 AM   #30
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Installing the laser beams tonight.
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