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Old 02-21-2014, 11:58 AM   #16
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Guzzi Stelvio. At 100,000 miles that motor will just start getting its best gas mileage.
And a whole new electrical system.
Oops, I see you're a Guzzi fan. I'm gonna catch hell for this.
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:41 PM   #17
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Urban legend. I've not had any electrical problems on any of my Guzzi's and the lowest milege on any of them is 50,000 miles.
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:05 PM   #18
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I don't own one, but a friend of mine had a DL650 V-Strom with well over 80,000 miles. It was still running strong when it got squashed by a car. He rode the hell out of it too. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I were looking for another ADV bike.
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:23 PM   #19
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Also a DL1000 with over 300,000 miles running around out there. The owner has listed the complete maintenance history and the extent of his problems in that time was 1 stator, everything else done to the bike was just routine maintenance. Still on the original clutch.

My 2 cents is that any modern bike if maintained properly, driven properly and not bagging it all the time, will last a long time.
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:38 PM   #20
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I was looking through some old bike mags recently and found this article in Bike May 2005. I find this sort of thing interesting as a motorcycle owner so thought I'd post some highlights.

The fella in question is a courier called Stan, who was in his early 60's at the time of the article. His list of bikes is as follows, along with the mileage he put on to each:

1983 Kawasaki GT550 - 15,000 miles
1984 Kawasaki GT750 - 184,000 - "Worst bike I ever bought"
1986 Yamaha FJ1100 - 30,000
1987 Yamaha FJ1200 - 14,000 in 3 weeks - returned to the dealer due to excessive vibration
1987 Yamaha FJ1200 - 90,000
1988 Honda VFR750 FJ - 140,000
1989 Honda VFR750 FK - 149,000 - knocked over at an airport, then traded in
1990 Honda VFR750 FL - 852,000 - engine replaced at 440,000 after it blew its head gasket
1996 Kawasaki ZZR1100 C3 - 252,000
1997 Kawasaki ZZR1100 D1 - 60,000 - written off
1998 Honda Blackbird - 410,000
2001 Honda Blackbird - 205,000 - current bike at the time of the article

Some mega mileages there, just goes to show those who worry about their bikes getting to 20 or 30k miles have only just scratched the surface.

Some other info:
Oil and filter changed every week - using Honda oil filters but 10w40 car oil - the cheap stuff (that's what he used in the 852,000 mile VFR!!)
RK chains last far longer than any others - usually 80,000 miles
A Scottoiler is used to keep the chain 'saturated in oil'
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:44 PM   #21
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Some mega mileages there, just goes to show those who worry about their bikes getting to 20 or 30k miles have only just scratched the surface.
Yeah, if you start a bike (there is a bunch of wear right there) and run it a long time between stops, it will last well.

My Bro in law did the same things with KAWASAKI 500's when he was a courier. (he had a friend in a KAWA dealer who was trading a few "worn out" GPZ500's ? at the time at about 30,000Km. The couriers used to put in an order at about 300,000Km on their current bike and picked the next one up for a song with 30,000 odd Km on it (they were no longer fashionable). Strip off all the plastic, add racks and crash bars and radio etc. Every two week out came the oil etc. I was always ragging on him about his POS KAWASAKI because he was always working on it when I popped in, not realizing that it was just scheduled maintenance. They all got around 350,000km mostly city riding. They moved onto some other brand later as the guy moved dealerships, with similar results.

So yeah, A touring bike should last a while if it is doing the big miles between stops and being used constantly. By the time most people do 300,000 Km though, the bike is just Sooooo last decade. Most of the Fashionistas wouldn't even get close in ten years.

The whole 30,000K's thing is a throw back to the Early 70's Japanese small bikes (two strokes usually). It's amazing it still pervades everything.
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Old 02-21-2014, 07:37 PM   #22
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To answer the op question Triumph.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:26 PM   #23
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Looking for comments and or facts as to which adv./tourer bike will be best in the long run for miles ridden and repairs. BMW,ducati,triumph
Of the above? Triumph

Overall? I'm with WCB- Guzzi
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:14 PM   #24
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My last dedicated touring bike was a Victory Vision... Fantastic machine, great handling, 30K trouble free miles.

My current bike is a Yamaha Super Tenere. Also an also low maintenance reliable machine.


For adventure bikes if you're looking for reliable, longevity, and low maintenance, the Japanese manufacturers tend to put together the machines that last the longest with the least amount of trouble.
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Old 02-26-2014, 05:39 AM   #25
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The DL1000 engine puts out 90-ish HP but was designed for more than twice that output while racing(and destroying) Ducati's. There isn't another adv bike engine that comes close in terms of how under stressed it is. Everything else being equal, that's a great indicator of longevity.

The DL1000 engine put out 30-35hp more in the TL and SV bikes with absolute reliability. Can any other adv bike have 30hp/30% more without splitting the cases and be 100% reliable?
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Old 02-26-2014, 05:47 AM   #26
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I can change all my fluids and filters, set the valves, sync the throttle bodies, and reset the TPS (if necessary) in about 2 hours. Is there any other ADV bike out there that you can say that about?

Ease of maintenance goes a long way towards the reliability thing.
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:29 AM   #27
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longevity/mileage

Thanks for the posts so far. I never even considered a M.G. hmmmm, maybe. I was looking for thoughts in the 1000-1200cc range also. I never dreamed the jap stuff would even come close to some of the mileage posted. Interesting blurbs on the Ducati, yes doesn't look like it would fair well in a off road laydown.
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Old 03-09-2014, 04:36 AM   #28
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Interesting topic this,all things being equal ,,like maintenance and usage (and abuse-age)I would rate the top brands for over longevity ,1 Honda,2 Suzuki,3 Yamaha,4 Bmw, 5 Moto Guzzi,6 Kawasaki 7, Triumph... Its just my opinion,and I have not owned all the brands...Really its no shame in being near the bottom of the list when you are talking of a 10/20 year period and and over one hundred thousand miles...But point is which manufacturer today makes bikes that will survive over 10 years of hard work I still believe Honda do...not all there machines but certainly the NC700,hope so ,,it what I have....
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Old 03-09-2014, 08:52 AM   #29
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Interesting blurbs on the Ducati, yes doesn't look like it would fair well in a off road laydown.
For the guys saying Ducati does not make an adventure bike, I wonder how many actually have ridden the Multistrada 1200 off road. 25,000 miles in 2 years trouble free, including some adventures off pavement. Throw on a set of TKC 80s and I've probably been farther off road then lots of BMW and Truimphs ever go. Am I a great off road rider, no. Still learning. But the Multi does not get the credit it deserves. My good friend has a GS Adventure. Will that bike do better off road, yes. Will he go that many more places I can't, no. As for laying it down, I've done it. A nice set of crash bars and bark busters are worth the money. No harm done. Not to mention its not terribly difficult to pick back up.
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Old 03-09-2014, 09:49 AM   #30
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I can change all my fluids and filters, set the valves, sync the throttle bodies, and reset the TPS (if necessary) in about 2 hours. Is there any other ADV bike out there that you can say that about?

Ease of maintenance goes a long way towards the reliability thing.
Love Guzzi's. I've owned five so far and will own another. All 8 valve Guzzis require 10-60 4T for the top end to live. Certain aspects of Guzzi maintenance are easy but $20/quart, hard to find engine oil isn't one of them. Neither is 6,250 mile valve check intervals.

And....yes, I would put the total maintenance costs and time involved of a V-Strom against an 8 valve Guzzi any day of the week;-). All the $80 oil changes, oil pressure sending units, plastic in-tank fuel filters failing, etc would add up over time.
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