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Old 02-28-2014, 02:35 PM   #31
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That's a good point.
Thinking about it today I thought of a solution for those who are hell bent on using the drain hose . Stick a strong magnet to the oil tank somewhere close to the drain hole using double sided tape or to the tip of the hose if its steel as close to the tank as possible.

Take the magnet off right before draining the tank.



Might work even better than the drain plug magnet.
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:18 PM   #32
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Bringing this one back to life.

Like Keener, I'm hesitant to get this hose (though I really want my oil changes to be as easy as they should have been without me buying more parts) mainly because of the lack of the magnet.

Are you guys not worried about catching the metal flakes?

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Old 06-26-2014, 07:22 PM   #33
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Making mine(drain line) right now. Looking like around $30-40 ... To have someone make it for me.
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:56 PM   #34
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Fumoto probably makes one that is the right size - they just don't market one for KTM )or motorcycles generally). They've been around for awhile. A few other manufacturers also. Avg price <$40 and a few different configs avail.

http://www.fumotousa.com

http://www.qwikvalve.com/size-chart.html
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:08 PM   #35
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Making mine(drain line) right now. Looking like around $30-40 ... To have someone make it for me.
I'd like to make the one in the original post with the parts list, but with a rubber hose instead of steel braided. Again, the metal shavings/magnet thing is holding me back at the moment.

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Old 06-26-2014, 08:10 PM   #36
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Fumoto probably makes one that is the right size - they just don't market one for KTM )or motorcycles generally). They've been around for awhile. A few other manufacturers also. Avg price <$40 and a few different configs avail.

http://www.fumotousa.com

http://www.qwikvalve.com/size-chart.html
Looks like the F-109n: ENGINE OIL DRAIN VALVE 12MM-1.5 is the right size -- don't take my word for it though please.

http://www.qwikvalve.com/fumoto-f109n-valve.html

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Old 06-26-2014, 08:24 PM   #37
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+1 on the Fumoto valve... makes quick work of oil changes. :)
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Looks like the F-109n: ENGINE OIL DRAIN VALVE 12MM-1.5 is the right size -- don't take my word for it though please.

http://www.qwikvalve.com/fumoto-f109n-valve.html

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Old 06-26-2014, 10:29 PM   #38
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If your really worried about the magnet, add one to the engine drain plug, or buy one with it in it.
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Old 06-27-2014, 05:22 AM   #39
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I just did my first oil change. Based on what was stuck to the magnet on the stock tank plug I am not going to install the drain hose. As a side note I replaced the stock magnetic plugs with zip tie racing plugs, the magnets are much more powerful and the kit included a third magnetic plug that replaced a non magnetic plug on the bottom of the engine case.
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Old 06-27-2014, 05:54 AM   #40
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Bringing this one back to life.

Like Keener, I'm hesitant to get this hose (though I really want my oil changes to be as easy as they should have been without me buying more parts) mainly because of the lack of the magnet.

Are you guys not worried about catching the metal flakes?

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The plug on the bottom of the engine also has a magnet ( or at least mine does). Also, motion pro and a few others makes an oil filter magnet if you want redundancy.

I've installed the fumoto valve ( F109N 12mm 1.5 thread pitch) with a little clear PVC tubing from HDepot all together for about $30. IMO the valve is not a perfect solution. Downside is that the small lever that opens the valve can be hard to get to. The supplied gasket has a lot of squish room, so it's hard to get feel as to how tight it needs to be so it doesn't leak and still have the lever positioned for easier access. You have to be careful not to screw it in too far as the valve threads could break off in the bottom of the oil tank, & too loose it leaks, and in between the valve lever is not accessible. I like CJ's idea or similar home made better than the valve.

But The basic cheapo home made plastic water bottle funnel worked fine before I went with the valve.
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Old 06-27-2014, 06:16 AM   #41
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Yeah bottom plug has magnet on my '08
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Old 06-27-2014, 07:32 AM   #42
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We've been using these drain hoses on all our bikes for years now and have not seen any issues. We service the tank screen at valve checks when the tanks are off, about every 10,000 miles. But have seen some bikes with 20,000 plus miles and these was never cleaned. I've not seen any of these screens anymore than 1/8 of it's length covered with stuff.

Saves us lots of time on the road and servicing.

The main engine drain plug has a magnet on it, All years have this.

Because of the concern some had about losing the magnet pickup on the oil tank drain, we make an Oil filter cap that now has a magnet it in.

The oil filter flow pattern is from the inside to the outside, so if you want to inspect what your filter is catching, you need to cut open the paper pleats and look INSIDE. This magnet, magnetizes the steel filter body and helps pick up extra fine bits that pass through the filter. It also helps aids in filter removal.
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Old 06-27-2014, 08:29 AM   #43
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We've been using these drain hoses on all our bikes for years now and have not seen any issues. We service the tank screen at valve checks when the tanks are off, about every 10,000 miles. But have seen some bikes with 20,000 plus miles and these was never cleaned. I've not seen any of these screens anymore than 1/8 of it's length covered with stuff.

Saves us lots of time on the road and servicing.

The main engine drain plug has a magnet on it, All years have this.

Because of the concern some had about losing the magnet pickup on the oil tank drain, we make an Oil filter cap that now has a magnet it in.

The oil filter flow pattern is from the inside to the outside, so if you want to inspect what your filter is catching, you need to cut open the paper pleats and look INSIDE. This magnet, magnetizes the steel filter body and helps pick up extra fine bits that pass through the filter. It also helps aids in filter removal.
Unless I'm missing it somehow, I don't see it on your site.

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Old 06-27-2014, 08:46 AM   #44
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Unless I'm missing it somehow, I don't see it on your site.

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I was talking about the oil filter cap with the magnet.

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